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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 22:12 
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Camera war on menace drivers
Deborah Linton
27/ 8/2008


DRIVERS using mobile phones at the wheel are to be caught on video cameras and punished.

The crackdown comes as the M.E.N. reveals that new driving laws are being routinely flouted.

In just three hours on four roads - Deansgate, Great Ancoats Street and Mancunian Way in Manchester and Stopes Road in Little Lever - we caught more than 15 motorists driving while making calls or texting on their phones.

Under new laws which came into force last week, motorists who kill while 'avoidably distracted' can be charged with a new offence of causing death by careless driving and jailed for up to five years. That includes people using mobile phones or sat-navs, eating or drinking, adjusting car stereos or applying make-up at the time of fatal crashes.

At present it is against the law to use a hand-held mobile phone while at the wheel of a car with its engine running.

It is not against the law to eat at the wheel, but you could still be fined by police if they believe your actions impaired your driving.

Traffic chiefs have now revealed a pilot scheme using portable cameras to identify people using mobiles at the wheel.

The cameras will also target motorists who are eating if their driving appears erratic. Those people can be brought before the courts or sent on a driver improvement course. Drivers caught on a mobile phone can get a fixed penalty fine and three points on their licence.

The footage can also be used to support prosecutions against them if they crash and are charged with an offence.

The footage can also be used to support prosecutions against them if they crash and are charged with an offence.

Mike Downes, project manager of Drivesafe, the Greater Manchester casualty reduction partnership, said: "Despite all the publicity and enforcement, drivers are still running risks.




Our sources down in Manchester are telling us that Liverpool Street (Salford). M602 (camera fixed to railing .. appears to be big clue .. given folk pulled in to hard shoulder between the Gilda Brook roundabout and Regent Road.. :rolleyes:

are targets.. along with cops pulled into St Mark's church at Worsley Brow (J13 M60) ..

Be warned..fore-warned is fore-armed. Be careful .. and just put Handy in the glove compartment and find a nice scenic area for a picnic. Manchester does have some rather pleasant oases for such stops.. as we have discovered. :wink: .. Sale Water Park.. Worsley village... Monton.. various country parks and some NT havens.. Relax.. and enjoy. :wink:

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Aww, from the title I thought people were fighting back against the spy cameras and cutting them down or blowing them up or something!
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nothing about smokers yet? I guess they're still working on showing how a group of people, repeated shown as statistically less-likely-to-crash, can be shown to be a menace. but it'll come.

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nothing about smokers yet? I guess they're still working on showing how a group of people, repeated shown as statistically less-likely-to-crash, can be shown to be a menace. but it'll come.




Well.. I cannot condone smoking :roll: as I am er.. a medic.. who .. err.. tells his patients not to .. errr. umm .. smoke :boxedin:

I do not understand the need to use a mobile phone when :steering: or :legorally: (still think Wildy's "Handy" is much more appropriated somehow.. them foreign folk :roll:)

I still think phone learn far more if stopped and spoken to by a proper policeman about safe driving skills.. with a penalty for "minor infringes" given as the very last resort. I also think that the phone and eating laws should apply to the cycling idiots who do wobble a lot when on theoir phones or swigging from water bottles. ( use a light weight walker/s bidon which straps to my body. It works a treat. It's downside perhaps is that it slows me speed when "competing" against the Swiss lads in our charity runs. It's why I have not been on the forum quite as often just recently.. :roll: and seeming to post up in clusters.

But that apart.. like the driver who fiddles and texts when driving or gets "involved" in the call... the cyclist in this mode behaves in exactly the same way..in lost concentration and ability to handle the bicycle :roll: Short hands free re-assurances when "stuck in a jam" are one thing .. but I like to have my tiffs with my wife and colleagues in person.. looking straight into their eyeballs :lol: Perhaps that's my personality. :scratchchin:

Do I agree with cams to do the job? No.. I still see a proper policeman as the only person who can deliver the correct message.. politely educating and perhaps not having much option but to give a verbal NOIP.. but the difference in this personal touch is that the person actually UNDERSTANDS why they received the rap on the knuckles or assault on wallets, purses, plastic card accounts and bank accounts.. :roll: - whatever .. :popcorn:


Eating? I do have an open tin of unwrapped mints and chocs ...to hand in the central tray behind the handbrake in my car. If I want a proper picnic lunch.. .. I like to find a nice, safe and fairly scenic, place to stop. Eating when driving .. it's like having lunch at the work desk. It's no break and does not do much for the digestive juices. The French and Italians do have a valid point over the needs of "l'estomac". :lol:

But the cams? Why a camera? Why not just employ a policeman on routine patrols. I would bet he'd find far more idiots.. and a lot more dangerous in potential too. :popcorn: Better value for money too. The cash spent on all this :censored: cam c:censored: .. would pay for many more routine patrol and beat bobbies. :roll:

The public are not stupid. nor so easily conned either. :popcorn:

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