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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:46 
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Just how many times can the cameras get it wrong before something is done about it? We shouldn't be putting up with hearing about these errors almost on a weekly basis:

Speed camera blunder

Motorists have been urged to query speeding tickets after a Suffolk bus driver was falsely accused of hurtling through a 30mph limit at 81mph on the A140 Norwich to Ipswich road.

Trevor Martin was actually travelling at 29mph when the fixed camera flashed his vehicle, at Earl Stonham, near Stowmarket.

The 43-year-old, of Preston Drive, Ipswich, was able to prove his innocence, as the bus he was driving was fitted with a tachograph, which recorded his speed, and a device preventing it going above 62mph.

Suffolk SafeCam, the group responsible for speed enforcement in the county, admitted the blunder and assured road users it was the first case of its kind in the county.

But Motorists Against Detection, a national lobby against the inappropriate use of speed cameras, said it knew of at least 10 other examples from elsewhere in the UK.

A spokesman said: "There are discrepancies and inaccuracies due to technical breakdowns within the system.

"The cameras are not foolproof and this is the reason why people should fight every case. People should check every detail about it before accepting fines and points."

Tony Fowler, Mid Suffolk district councillor for Earl Stonham, said this particular camera had proved controversial ever since it was installed, in August 2003, with its position the subject of local debate.

He said: "Although it has made that particular area a lot safer, it's a worry to think they aren't as accurate as we'd like to think."

It was at about 8am on January 18 that Mr Martin was said to have hurtled along the Norwich-bound stretch of the road. A week later he received a letter warning him he was to be prosecuted for the offence.

After proving the error, he received a further letter, dated January 31, saying no further action would be taken.

But for Mr Martin, who has always had a clean driving license, it offered scant consolation.

He said: "The only response I had was a short and sharp letter, which was not satisfactory in my opinion.

"I was completely shocked when I received the notice, when you consider driving is my livelihood. I knew going 81mph in a 30mph limit would lead to a loss of license or suspension from work. It created quite a lot of stress and worry."

"In a way I'm relieved I was in a bus. It made it easier because there was no way I could've been doing that speed. It would've been harder to prove if I was in a car."

Mr Martin wanted to highlight his case to show the system is not infallible.

Suffolk SafeCam said it was a combination of technical and human error that led to Mr Martin being sent a speeding ticket.

It is believed the camera may have recorded vibrations being made by a panel on the back of the bus, instead of the speed of the vehicle. This would have caused the camera to flash, sending an image of the bus back to partnership's central ticket office.

It was at this point that a further check should have been made, measuring the speed of the vehicle using the white lines painted on the road. But this did not take place.

Michelle Finnerty, communications manager for the partnership, said procedures have been reviewed with the intention of ensuring that such a mistake can never happen again.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:54 
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But Motorists Against Detection, a national lobby against the inappropriate use of speed cameras, said it knew of at least 10 other examples from elsewhere in the UK.


10??

Try 20,000+, and counting...


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Suffolk SafeCam said it was a combination of technical and human error that led to Mr Martin being sent a speeding ticket.



The same errors that infest the whole system :roll:


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It is believed the camera may have recorded vibrations being made by a panel on the back of the bus, instead of the speed of the vehicle. This would have caused the camera to flash, sending an image of the bus back to partnership's central ticket office.


If the activator for the camera is this volatile how the hell can we trust any speed recording made by it?


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There have been enough cases like this now where they haven't bothered to check the distance travelled agaisnt the two photos, in my opinion, to warrant a full investigation into this checking. It looks to me as if they just ticket everyone in the hope they will pay up.


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THAT Scamera...Again !

Rethink over speed camera

March 14, 2005 20:00

SPEEDING tickets are today being reviewed as part of an investigation into a faulty roadside camera in Suffolk.

The revelation comes in the wake of a succession of motorists being falsely accused of racing along the A140 at Earl Stonham.

Suffolk SafeCam, the organisation responsible for speed enforcement in the county, said the probe will "examine the validity" of the prosecutions.

Spokeswoman Michelle Finnerty said: "The films have been looked at as part of the investigation and the partnership will be releasing information as soon as the findings are complete."

The latest driver to fall victim of the camera is Michael Green, 49, who was accused of reaching 78mph along A140 at Earl Stonham last September.

After receiving the ticket, Mr Green, of Bramford Road, Ipswich, was so stunned he even considered challenging the authorities to prove his vehicle could hit such speeds.

He claims his ageing E-registered van can only travel up to 62mph.

He said: "I just couldn't believe they'd said I was doing 78mph because I knew it wasn't possible.

"I would've been quite happy for the police to take my van out for a test drive to prove to me it could go that fast if they'd have wanted."

After alerting the partnership to the error, the threat of prosecution was withdrawn the following day.

Despite being sorted out very quickly, the ordeal caused a great deal of worry for Mr Green.

Being convicted at such a high speed would have had serious repercussions for his career as a taxi driver.

He said: "I'd probably have been banned and that would've meant I'd have had to find new work. It was a very serious matter for me."

His case comes in the wake of The Star highlighting the cases of bus driver Trevor Martin and Robin Atkins, who were both incorrectly flashed by the camera.

Mr Martin was accused of travelling at 81mph, even though the tachograph fitted to his vehicle proved he was only doing 29mph.

Have you been falsely clocked by a speed camera? Write to Your Letters, Evening Star, 30 Lower Brook Street, Ipswich, IP4 1AN or e-mail eveningstarletters@eveningstar.co.uk


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Hopefully this scenario might get publicised enough that a lot more people start questioning their prosecutions-if everyone did then i reckon the scams profit margin would be a lot thinner.

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