Steve wrote:
Be sure to know the distinction between "accidents/collisions" and KSI accidents.
Well one could say (& some like to) that there is no such thing as 'an accident'. That all traffic collisions are incidents.
There is also the distinction that there are many incidents which are never reported and there are Police reported (within the confines of their processing (checking boxes)). Then there are those where there is 'damage only' incidents. Is that what you were driving at ?
Perhaps what I said was not clear (enough) ?
Steve wrote:
The Reading Chronicle - Lottie Gross wrote: wrote:
Chief Inspector Gill Wootton, head of the force roads policing department, warned that looking at statistics for individual camera sites in isolation could not prove or disprove their effectiveness...
And that's even before we consider confounding factors such as
RTTM (which still plays a part in how speed camera effectiveness are perceived) as well as
Bias On Selection.
Exactly. If Ci Gill Wootton can recognise that it fails to prove or disprove the 'effectiveness' then why can she not question their supposed 'benefit'?!
Steve wrote:
The Reading Chronicle - Lottie Gross wrote: wrote:
Richard Owen, Safer Roads operations manager, said cameras cost around £20,000 each to install but said that in Berkshire they are only loaded with film one day out of 10.
He added: "I would encourage people to talk about the speed cameras in healthy public debate, and to discuss where they are and where they could be more effective, because they may be moved if necessary."
So you can capitalise on the illusion resulting from RTTM ? Where have I seen
this tactic before?
20K to install plus the 30K to buy them too ! We know that around 53% were not 'working' too so they have made a great deal of money from just a few cameras which show just how many people are totally ignoring the speed limit signs in some places. Agreed, totally with the RTTM & BoS.
They fail to appreciate what truly helps someone slow/ or drive more carefully, because of perceived hazards (inc a speed camera of all types). Plus why make someone slow (talking within limits here), when perhaps no danger threatens at that moment in time ?
If drivers only ever slowed whenever a speed camera was present then how have we managed to have the safest roads in the World for many decades prior to this era of SCAMS ?
Steve wrote:
So no chance of a speed camera manager considering the possibility that the road safety budget would be better spent instead on real safety measures!
Since they don't get how to make people slow, other than with a big sticks, it is no wonder that they cannot understand true road safety, never mind how to apply it - they are totally unfit for purpose.