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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 01:55 
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Speed cameras in Bristol will be switched back on
11 December 2013 Last updated at 17:49

Speed cameras are to be turned back on across Bristol, the city's mayor has announced.

Fixed speed cameras and cameras monitoring junctions were switched off in 2011 after the government stopped funding the Safety Camera Partnership.
George Ferguson said work will start early next year to switch on up to 26 speed and traffic light cameras.
Revenue raised from the cameras will be used to fund their maintenance and enforcement.

'Tolerance and respect'
Chief Constable Nick Gargan, who has made it clear he wants to see the cameras turned back on, said: "National research shows that they have a positive impact on driver behaviour and we have been working with the council to identify a cost neutral way of reactivating them."

Mr Ferguson and Police Commissioner Sue Mountstevens also revealed 15 community speed watch schemes, where volunteers are trained to monitor speeds with detection equipment.
They told a road safety summit work to encourage more volunteer schemes is under way as 20mph areas are rolled out in the city.
"While the number of those killed or seriously injured on our roads has reduced recently there are still too many incidents, especially those involving pedestrians and cyclists," said Mr Ferguson.
"I have asked officers to start work on preparing speed cameras to be switched back on and boost the number of community speed watch programmes in the city."

Police and Crime Commissioner Sue Mountstevens said: "The Mayor and I are both keen to find a way of stopping the war between different road users and find a way of building more tolerance and respect."

Other councils in the Avon and Somerset area - which used to jointly run the Safety Camera Partnership with Bristol - have already said they are not considering a similar move.
Somerset County Council said talks had taken place but the cost would be "prohibitive". North Somerset said talks had been held over reactivating one camera but the idea was rejected.

Bath and North East Somerset Council and South Gloucestershire said they were not considering turning any cameras back on.
If they wish to improve all road users tolerance and respect it will never be achieved by the public acting in a vigilantly manner nor by turning on speed cameras. Funding the cameras using it's own funding was banned a while back so how are they justifying it now or have they decided a hypothecation scheme is now simply acceptable ?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:34 
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[Mr Ferguson]BBC News[/url] wrote:
"While the number of those killed or seriously injured on our roads has reduced recently there are still too many incidents, especially those involving pedestrians and cyclists,"

Oooo I bet that stuck in his throat! So, the cameras have been off since 2011 and he hasn't got the great, big juicy "I told you so" rise in KSIs to justify their existence!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:50 
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Interesting that they mix speed cameras and red light cameras in this discussion.... since red light cameras are targetting a single spot where there is definitely a hazard with an offence which (in most cases) is absolute. Can of worms perhaps but I'd have thought the average driver has much less experience of and much less of an issue with red light cameras than speed cameras.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 19:00 
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"While the number of those killed or seriously injured on our roads has reduced recently there are still too many incidents, especially those involving pedestrians and cyclists,"


This reads to me, as though it's the peds and cyclists who are hurting each other...so switching speed cameras back on..... will do what for this scenario????????? (catch speeding peds and cyclists maybe?)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 22:24 
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It's like some African state saying that as incidents involving elephant damage are on the increase , big game hunters are being sent out to cull Lions /tigers and Meerkats.

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Yep, never mind the real problem, let's shoot the easy targets.

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graball wrote:
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"While the number of those killed or seriously injured on our roads has reduced recently there are still too many incidents, especially those involving pedestrians and cyclists,"


This reads to me, as though it'd the peds and cyclists who are hurting each other...so switching speed cameras back on. will do what for this scenario?????????



Would make me laugh ,if it wasn't so serious ,that due to HMG financial incompetence, County councils are being so strapped for cash ,that PCSO ( whose original task was to deal with cyclists) are now doing a lot of PC work . I often go into our town centre after the bollards are lowered ( Blue badge privilege) to see cyclists ignoring pedestrian safety /one way systems and more often than not without lights and in dark clothing. We have a CCTV system in the area, but that's as much use as a speed camera is in dealing with 28MPH tailgaiting in a 30

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