Yeah, to both comments. There always has been a serious concern that local people could become obsessed with the detail than their overall point.
Which lets face it was to try to win people over that the whole concept was meant to be 'good'!
Happily people are lazy and gradually wonder if what they are doing is really right, and especially when they catch their neighbours and friends who are usually the highest (or were) offenders in these local situations anyway!
I think it's really sad because some have been hurt and it's all so very wrong from the morals of it right through to the blatant lack of any scientific data to support it!
It always used to be that the local Council employed a proper Engineer who provided some advice and along with further proper advice from the Police / Hendon and other proper research, we had an excellent system that genuinely sought to facilitate good road safety policies because they were good and proven to be so. Any changes were small until properly and scientifically proven.
To even consider the public's input and opinion when most have no concept of what they speak is just an astounding and despicably ignorant as well of course highly dangerous with all sorts of repercussions! I see that LV insurance is now saying that they have seen an increase in lack of confident driving which we predicted many years ago now! Sometimes it's really sad to be right!