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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 00:24 
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Headlining tonight's Manchester Evening News

Clarissa Satchell reports.

A professional couple are £11K out of pocket after trying to dodge two Gatso fines by inventing a Bulgarian driver :? :shock:

The wife even flew to Bulgaria to post a postcard to fool the police. :shock:

The couple claimed Konstantin Kocov had been driving the family Merc past the Gatso near their home in Hyde

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :? :shock:

Scam survey says - er most want one near home. :roll: Guess this proves who really gets copped then :wink: :wink: :wink:


As police grew suspicious Mrs B flew to Bulgaria to post a card to her husband from "Mr K" to thank for his hospitality during his "stay" in his office and use of the car. This did not satisfy the scammers though who got Interpol to check out Mr K and his "tenacity" was praised by the judge :roll:

Sentencing Judge Lever at Manchester Crow Court said that he would have considered prison had they not pleaded guilty Mr B received a £7.500 fine :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: and £700 costs and his wife £1750 fine and£1200 costs and then are are defence costs on top.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Worst still - if the fine is not paid with 28 days Mr B gets to go to prison for 6 months and his wife for 40 days
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Oh - and the speed in question? 36 mph and 38 mph past the scamera..... :roll:

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"MEN" leader says:

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None of us take too kindly to being flashed by camera [/i]

:? bit of an understatement there! :roll:


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But the actions of Mr & Mrs B take a new meaning to cutting off your nose to spite your face. Collecting two £60 fines, the couple concocted an elaborate get-out by inventing Mr Koscov - a Bulgarian "employee" who got flashed in their car before disappearing to Bulgaria. Mrs B even flew to Bulgaria to send her husband a postcard from Mr K to show to the police....

This preposterous story ended with Mr B receiving a £7500 fine and £700 costs and his wife £1750 and £1250 costs... Having misled police and attempting to outsmart the system - they only avoided prison by pleading guilty to perverting the course of justice.



[i] The next comment is quite an interesting comment on the part of the editor despite his condemnation of this couple :wink:

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The case does remind us that the speed camera generally proves that the car, rather than a dirver, commits the offence and theat the registered keeper has to either admit the offence or name the person who did so. :roll: :roll: Some argue that this undermines the long established princiciples of English justice. It also invites the possibilty of pulling a fast one by the unscrupulous! :wink: :wink: by claiming someone else was driving.


He also forgot to mention that if the driver or car was uninsured, without MOT or even not registered - there is a problem :roll: :roll: :roll: of potential danger "getting aways with a worse and potentially more dangerous offence should there be a collision.

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The Bs tried it on and failed . Even the harshest critic of the speed camera will not have much sympathy



SO - what does the borad on here think then?

I do not know what fines this couple may have had already Arguably either could have accepted 3 points each and the £60 fine and given the company car aspect - their loading would have been a high business one anyways.

I do know that when I paid for this 10p edition of the Friday paper at the kiosk in down in Lancs on the way home tonight and passed a remark on the headline - the comment around from 12 people queuing and the three assistants was: "Don't blame them - too easy to lose your licence on one journey these days."

Is this just the attitude of a belaguered LanCASH£re or is it a sign thaat the public "support" assuming they had any is starting to wear thinner than ever?

Is this editor toeing a party line in his final comment? :?

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I think the actions of this couple were inexcusable. What you do is find someone who exists and doesn't mind taking the points for you rather than going to the trouble of inventing Bulgarians. :twisted: Kidding.

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Yet another case where the police have put more effort into collecting £60 than they appear to do catching burglars.


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I don't blame them for one minute, especially if they already had points and were at risk of losing the freedom a car affords.


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Capri2.8i wrote:
I don't blame them for one minute, especially if they already had points and were at risk of losing the freedom a car affords.

Yes, absolutely, and what a waste of public money :o

More evidence, if it were needed, that it is essential that the police stop and confront offenders immediately after the alleged offence.

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they broke the golden rule of giving false details to plod.

never give a name where the first letter of the first name and surname is the same.


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They were a bit daft but its all a bit of a storm in a tea cup isn't it?

What we are seeing is otherwise lawabiding people forced to such extremes through desperation.

OAP coucil tax martyrs, Fathers for justice, 'points sharers' etc etc


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diy wrote:
they broke the golden rule of giving false details to plod.

never give a name where the first letter of the first name and surname is the same.


JJ? :lol:

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Yet another case where the police have put more effort into collecting £60 than they appear to do catching burglars.


Now had the couple had their numberplates nicked, would plod be so interested??
Somehow i think not, unless there was the chance of yet another easy £60


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The moment we start talking about people going to jail for attempting to evade a totting-up ban, it suddenly becomes a viable alternative to take the ban and drive while disqualified.

Think about that one.

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