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If they need 90 days to look through CCTV footage etc. they will need at least a year to scan all vehicle movements in the country.

Let the cloning begin.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

The Police State has officially arrived. This is Communism, plain and simple. Makes me wonder who we've really got in charge...

If used to detect the whereabouts of stolen cars, vehicles used in serious crimes and vehicles owned by people linked with terrorism, this blatantly "Big Brother" system would still be unworthy of support from the public. But we all know this is not what the system will be used for anyway.

It will be used for only four purposes as far as I can see:

1) Revenue from blanket, zero-tolerance speed limit enforcement.

2) Revenue from additional minor fixed-penalty offences, such as tax discs 2 days out of date, prosecuting people for no MOT while driving to the MOT station, accidentally straying into a bus lane etc. The list is endless.

3) Revenue from Pay-per-mile road pricing. This will be IN ADDITION TO the fuel tax, VED etc that we already pay, not a replacement for. The system will enable them to determine in advance which are the most heavily used roads, so that these can be priced the highest. "Phase 2" will see a GPS-based system implemented to cover the roads where it is not economic to install ANPR.

4) Revenue from selling the data to market research companies etc.

I may be wrong, but I will be very surprised if I am.

They've gone too far this time. Once people start getting banned from driving en-masse and see their travelling costs exceed their mortgage as a result of this system, there will be a certain backlash.

And let's not forget about the rich and famous that get their movements "leaked" to the tabloids...

I would like to see what would happen if half the population decided to tape over or remove their numberplates.....

At least it will make life easier for the Tories. All they'll need to do is promise to abolish the system for a guaranteed election win.

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“For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken

This topic is also being discussed here: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4751

The current most important question for me is : Who authorised this little lot?

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

No chance... For two good reasons,

1. The Tories are too f*cking stupid and inward-looking to realise that they would be onto a winner... and,

2. The entrenched Labour voter is as stupid as the entrenched Tory voter - "they'd vote for a pig as long as it was draped in the right colours!".

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"Politicians are the same the world over... We build bridges where there aren't any rivers." - Nikita Kruschev

That's true - but they cancel out and elections are decided by floating voters.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

They would have to be f*cking f*cking f*cking stupid not to take advantage of this.

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“For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken

The vote is influenced not by support but by apathy, stupidity and the weather.

Most people are 50/50 whether they will go and vote. If they hear the opposition make a stupid statement the may put more effort in to voting. If their side say something stupid the may put less effort into voting.

Tories turn out just because they want to prove their legs still work.
Labour voters will vote if they live less than three streets away and if the weather is kind to them.

It is a very fickle thing

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code