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Council installs secret speed cameras against Government guidance
A council is introducing two unmarked speed cameras in mocked up workman's vans despite clear Government advice that cameras should be visible.

By Nick Britten
Last Updated: 7:19PM BST 26 Aug 2008

Derbyshire Road Safety Partnership said the hidden cameras were the perfect way to make drivers fear that "any vehicle" could be a speed trap.

The council was accused of putting profit before safety and ignoring guidelines put out by the Department of Transport and the Association of Chief Police Officers.

The vans will be used in the Peak District to deter motorists and particularly bikers, who flock to the area every weekend from all over the country.

A camera van, mocked up as a scruffy blue workman's van complete with GB sticker, has been used since March on country roads but is being replaced after word got round that it had the same number plate as a previously marked camera van. It is being joined by a second undercover van.

Robert Hill, the partnership's manager, said: "We hope to discourage more people from speeding by creating the impression that any vehicle could be performing speed checks.

"For us the aim of using safety cameras is to prevent people from travelling too fast rather than to catch them."

The Derbyshire Road Safety Partnership, claims its scheme has helped cut deaths and injuries by up to 40 per cent on some roads, catching around 20,000 speeders a year.

A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers added: "It's quite common now for police to hide their cars, their cameras or themselves.

"We have even heard of police hiding behind gravestones. They are going down exactly the same route as the police in Australia and America.

"In one case in America an officer actually dressed up as a tramp while operating a speed-trap. How long before that happens here?

"These disguised vans are certainly not in keeping with ACPO guidelines - but then the guidelines aren't worth the paper they're written on."

It comes as motorists in Essex are warned that their speed is being tracked by helicopter. Signs have been erected in the county warning them that they could also be prosecuted as a result of information gathered from above.

The helicopters are equipped with cameras which can read a numberplate from 700 feet, radar speed detection devices and loudhailers.

Claire Armstrong, of national campaign group Safe Speed, insisted: "Speed-cameras are a flawed road-safety policy. They do not work.

"We have had 15 years of speed-cameras, and we have not seen any benefits from them. We do think it is a money-making scheme now."

Four years ago senior officers in Derbyshire agreed to take down a fixed speed-camera after it was hidden just two yards behind a 30mph sign.

Drivers bombarded officials with complaints after the "sneaky" GATSO was put up on a bend on the A6 on the edge of the village of Ambergate.

Police, who claimed it had never been turned on, removed it after accepting it was "inappropriate" and didn't give motorists "a fighting chance".

Guidance from the Department for Transport makes frequent references to the need for speed cameras and warning signs to be clearly visible to road users, saying speed cameras should be "publicised, signed, and visible to road users".

The use of unmarked speed cameras in Britain is rare.

Apart from Derbyshire and north Wales, where a fake horsebox was deployed earlier this year on the A470 at Maenan, near Llanrwst, no other safety partnerships publicise their use. However, their use is more common in the rest of the world.

Officers in South Carolina, for example, have used a deliberately "beaten-up" pick-up truck that hides a speed camera.

In Australia, police regularly don jungle camouflage and hide in the bush to trap speeding bikers racing on the Yarra Ranges.

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“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
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