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Paul Smith
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In a way it's quite sad how presenters like him really don't take road safety seriously.

I've just listened to that-Talk about ignorance!

Paul, put a complaint in about that airing, Bacon just talked over you and was in cahoots with that other bloke and frankly they didn't give a shit what you had to say.


Regards


Andrew

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He was his typical self. Anything that is prima facie revelation (we know different of course) is bound to get such a reaction from a headline-grabbing journalist. Not defending it - but, as I'm sure Paul has concluded, no point in getting would up about it - some of the message will have got through - and it was national.

Well, any publicity is good publicity


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Andrew

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Perhaps, but the bit at the end when he tricked Paul into saying that seatbelts didn't save lives can't have done Safe Speed any good.

I wonder if pedestrian/cyclist KSIs increased when seatbelts became compulsory? I expect this has been researched somewhere - on SafeSpeed itself if truth be known.

They did, as a lot of the Cycling + regulars will tell you.

This site may shed some light on the issue:

http://www.ucolick.org/~de/AltTrans/SeatbeltLaws.html

Realistically, I don't suppose many of the regulars on here see compulsory seatbelt wearing as the road safety panacea that it is sometimes claimed to be, and had this forum been in operation in 1982 I suspect there would have been much opposition to it.

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best not to get drawn into a debate over seatbelts, will only damage credibility of any argument about speed cameras.
The Motorcycle Action Group lost a lot of credibility with everyone, including bikers, because it kept on about compulsory wearing of helmets.
Also the ABD spouts off about global warming and again this gives opponents the chance to categorise them as flaky extremists.
Even if these arguments have validity, it is a distraction. We know how hard it is to get heard even with the facts on your side.
By the by Richard Bacon is not capable of any intelligent debate and is probably best left to his own devices.

Didn't he get sacked from his job as a Blue Peter presenter because of his (sniff) habit??

Biog.

Yeah, a real pillar of society....

This was quite sad. The rambling anecdotes of a coach driver and the semi-articulate utterings of Captain Gatso were always going to provide a difficult backdrop against which to comment however. The point Paul was trying to make needed much more time than he was afforded, this is the snag with these shows which thrive on sound-bite methodolgy.
The job of the presenter in these shows is to stimulate debate whilst supporting/rebuffing each side in equal measure. Some are very good at it, however Richard Bacon's sneering contempt and out of context quoting demonstrates that he isn't one of them

Thanks for your support guys.

There's no lion's den I wouldn't enter. I'll ALWAYS have a go and I'll always (?) score a point here or there.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety