Some people would prefer to ignore the difference between disagreeing with a point of view, and disagreeing with a person.
I will always remember
this gem ...
Herbie J wrote:
My view is there should be no discussion, it should simply be outlawed. It is a fact that when people use mobile phones - even hands free - their awareness, judgement, and reaction times are affected, and because of this it should be stopped. I have ZERO sympathy for anyone who gets nicked for using a mobile phone while driving:
1. Because of the above
2. Because it is not necessary to use phone on the move in a vehicle
3. Because arrogance and ignorance leads to questioning common sense.
People are distracted enough just changing a CD over by pressing a button on the steering column, or opening an electric window, or looking for the light switch.
What many forget is that not everyone is a competent or advanced driver who may for a few moments be able to multi task and not crash or cause a crash, some road users are utter rubbish or just complete idiots incapable of driving safely, let alone holding a conversation on the phone,
so as with everything, all rules and regs should apply to the dumbest and most incompetent.
I for one would readily accept a ban on radio/CD, along with banning passenger conversations with the driver. As ridiculous as that may appear it would reduce a lot of crashes, likewise the banning of passenger carrying by all new drivers for up to one year. It may seem a crazy thing to say but not when you look at many accident causes. Everything about modern cars are distractions, they are a coccoon with a wheel on each corner, passengers are a distraction, music can distract, comfort and quietness can distract from reality. I would happily let anyone enjoy these luxuries if only they could drive well enough, sadly the majority cannot. So its a good job for all that Im not in charge lol.
(Underlines and other modifications by The Rush)

I question 'common sense', because the following occurences are becoming increasingly common:
a) pedestrians walking into traffic sans the right of way, raising their hands defiantly demanding that the car ignore the green light and stop, while the pedestrian ignores their red light and causes a traffic jam
b) highway patrol troopers hiding behind anything they can to 'catch' speeders in the act of being perfectly normal - in my youth, I remember how a single trooper could calm at least 16 cars - instead of patrolling their area with real vigilance (several state constitutions in Amerika still require a live human being to testify against you, a camera or corporate apparatus is insufficient - for now)
c) laws being passed which condescend to the lowest common duh-nominators of gut feelings, emotional tantrums, and a rush to blame and punish the last link in the chain based on superficial appearances vs scrutinous investigation of the whole chain and either confirmation or discovery
As for knowing everything, I hold this forum proximately responsible for the fact that I have read 2000 pages [just] on the subject of driving [alone] since Dec '07 - not including what I've read on the interwebs - have learned more than I possibly could have hoped, and look forward to another 2000 or so pages before the end of '08.