Safe Speed Forums

No working video recorder yet, but I'll have a go with an old webcam and some gaffer tape. Should be enough to get a representative recording.

Shame I'm away from home now as tomorrow night I'll be doing the M6 rush hour drive home. I fulley expect to be tailgated and cut up by reps and there to be at least one car sideways on the embankment between junctions 16-8

This may be the key. I invariably drive at a pace that keeps me moving past (at a reasonable speed differential) the 'bunch' travelling at 60-75. That means I'm mostly doing 80-85 indicated, where traffic allows. I do that precisely because I want to avoid being caught up in the bunching. At 70-75, I can see it is quite likely that you would get caught up in the bunch (which means, in essence, smaller gaps). It is hard to see how to avoid that without either reducing speed (but that means being caught up with the LGVs) or increasing speed (as I do) so that you're generally faster than the bunch.

Yeah, but have you ever timed these at 70mph?? keep 2 chevrons could mean 1 at the back of his car and 1 at the front of yours or as I thought it meant, 1 at back of his, 1 in middle, 1 at your car. This would equal 4 secs, where as 1 at back of his, 1 at front of yours would equal roughly 2 secs. This confusion is probably why people seem to ignore the signs.

(sorry if I seem sexist there, take him / his to mean him / her his / her)

'their' car avoids the problem.

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Andrew.

Yeah it does, but it's nearly 4am so stuff it

About the cutting up, I'm usually a victim of it, I'm in a coach which is restricted to 62mph, I get the erm.. elderly and erm.. over careful? drivers in the inside lane slowing down trucks that are limited to 56mph so I obviously have to overtake them (tacho, driving time limits, places to go etc..), so you pull into the middle lane (eventually) and there's some1 there doing 60mph, so I drop to 60mph (hoping they'll eventually pull into the inside lane) and keep a 2 second gap and in it comes, the person (usually on their phone or driving a german car bmw / merc or 4x4) straight into my safe stopping gap BUT then they ALWAYS press their brakes (probably automatic cars so to slow down in such a short space they leave themselves, brakes come on).... HAVE THEY NO IDEA THE DAMAGE A 15+ TONNE VEHICLE WOULD DO IF IT HIT THEM??? let alone if it crushed them between it and the car infront of them??

We leave a safe gap wherever possible for a reason, yet some people think it's an open invite, not a problem, but give us time to get a gap from you before you slam on your brakes.