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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 18:35 
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:gatso2:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7360267.stm

Curfew call for teenager drivers

New drivers are more likely to have a serious crash

The Northern Ireland Assembly is to debate a proposal to impose a night time curfew on novice drivers.

North Down MLA Peter Weir has also proposed limiting the number and age of passengers and a total alcohol ban on newly qualified drivers.

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All that will do is shift the inexperince.

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ree.t wrote:
All that will do is shift the inexperince.
:yesyes: and make it more protracted - young learn faster.


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Great, how am I to get to work in London by 6am on Saturday morning? Saturday morning is the most pleasurable driving time for me of the week. Barely anything about, and no need to stop from leaving my dad's house in Braintree till the Redbridge roundabout.


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Roger wrote:
ree.t wrote:
All that will do is shift the inexperience.
:yesyes: and make it more protracted - young learn faster.
I read this page about once every two weeks or so, and dare to dream ...

Anyone remember this thread?
I feel an urge to contrast what Colorado is trying to do with graduated licensing, against the ideal of the late Paul Smith's 'Manifesto'.
Alastair Ross wrote:
Whilst some of the measures discussed today may not be popular with young people, any measures that will reduce the carnage on our roads and save lives must be given detailed consideration.
Keeping kids off the roads at the times when they are most likely to kill themselves and their friends is certainly a viable approach to 'saving lives' and 'reducing carnage'.

I doubt he is interested in giving detailed consideration to any ideas that could or might improve road safety culture, much less examine how to do so by
a) graduated licensing beyond either the L-Test, or Pass Plus
b) improving the education, training, and tesing standards for the L-Test itself

Numerical age may be one of the necessary factors in creating a proxy for measuring the ability to manage distractions. On its own, however, it is most certainly not such a proxy.

The overall quality of the development of 'the next generation' is already in measurable decline. Graduated licensing, as is, will simply increase the number of people left to barely learn how to drive.

(Anybody willing to bet that the only minimum age requirement that will never go any higher, is the age of military enlistment?)

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HMM - SUpporters - BEWARE .

This smacks to me of the divide created between car drivers and 4x4 ,and that created between 4 and 2 wheeled drivers .

And then - another GREAT IDEA - (looks good on paper ) -

ONE GREAT BIG QUESTION -----WHO IS GOING TO POLICE IT ---


:camera: OR :bib:

Go down that road ---why not forget the idea and get more :bib: on road - they'll do two, no three things things -
1) catch out the un anything cars /drivers - un insured etc -the ilegals .
2) get the boy racers (of any age )/ bad drivers off the road and into court .
3) EDUCATE the ones who have ,perhaps just passed ,and need a bit of more education - they're not willfully bad -just ignorant .( next time - perhaps option 2 ??)

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nicycle wrote:
Great, how am I to get to work in London by 6am on Saturday morning? Saturday morning is the most pleasurable driving time for me of the week. Barely anything about, and no need to stop from leaving my dad's house in Braintree till the Redbridge roundabout.



Via NORTHERN IRELAND :shock: - perhaps you should consult a map - always said those sat navs would lead you astray
:lol: :lol:

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