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From the Metro newspaper (a free sheet produced daily available to commuters in London):



This is really good news, or perhaps someone on the Safespeed forum will come up with a bizarre reasoning as to why the cameras in the Limehouse Link Tunnel are actually not helping and making life more dangerous for all drivers in the south east and please won't somebody think of the children?

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

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I wonder what the figures were for 18 months prior... any guesses? 0? 1?

Of course I haven't seen the figures but I would be more interested in the number of incidents in which these people were killed. The 17 might have all been in one bus accident (sorry, this is extreme to put the point).

It may just be coincidental that cars in accidents were full of people.

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Malcolm W.
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exactly and if you do a google search you'll find that one of the accidents involved 5 teenagers in one car.

We don't need any 'bizarre' reasons, what we need to know is what the long term typical serious crash levels have been. Then we can estimate the contribution of the regression to the mean (RTTM) benefit illusion.

It's not difficult to imagine a couple of highly untypical crashes triggering a knee jerk reaction. Since the untypical crashes naturally fail to recur we may erroneously conclude that our kneee jerk reaction was helpful.

And of course the sneaky bastards have suddenly switched from quoting crashes to quoting casualties because it suits their purposes.

And of course everyone is now so fed up with the Police that they are less likely to report a crash.

And of course vehicles are getting safer every year So making injuries less likely.

And of course no one likes to drive under specs so some traffic with possible alternative routes has gone away.

And of course it wouldn't have been reported if crashes had gone up. (A bit like tossing a coin ten times and only calling out the result when it was heads... Wow - that's an amazing coin - every time you toss it it's a head.)

I could go on...

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Paul Smith
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Not that extreme - in last few days there have been two crashes in Lincolnshire involving mini-buses.

From BBC website:





Thats 2 dead and 27 receiving hospital treatment from 2 accidents involving just 3 vehicles.