IanH wrote:
Cooperman wrote:
Ernest Marsh wrote:
It seems not everybody is onboard the speed camera gravy boat!
This report from 2003 highlights some differences of opinion!
http://www.thisisthelakedistrict.co.uk/archive/display.var.294156.0.slow_take_up_for_pilot_speed_gun_trials.phpQuote:
Since Arnside Parish Council raised the idea with police, the seaside village was set to trial Community Speed Watch and the idea was put to residents at their annual parish meeting last Thursday.
Ian Stewart, Arnside's councillor on Cumbria County Council and South Lakeland District Council, spoke up for the idea but many residents were unconvinced. Brian Walker argued the system could harm neighbourly relations while others maintained that in most places along the village's windy roads it was difficult to drive as fast as the 30mph speed limit. Motorists going below 30mph but driving recklessly around blind corners were the menace.
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At Lakes Parish Council this week, Sgt Neil Allison was asked about the idea.
He told members: "The problem with arming people with speed radar guns is that the people using them have to realise that people are going to stop and take issue with it, and if you are not prepared for that, it will come as a shock.
"I feel we will be forever going to the aid of people using them because the general public do not accept it."
Sgt Allison added he did not think the Lakes area had such a problem with breaking speed limits but some drove at a pace inappropriate to the area.
Well at least Sgt. Allison had his head screwed on! Does he still have his job I wonder?
Is Neil Allison one of your buddies, Ian? He seems to be another who can see that bad and inappropriate driving is the cause of accidents.
Could you encourage him to join us on here if he is a friend of yours?
Yep, I know Neil well. He's pretty switched on, and doesn't always toe the line, which is something I like about him.
He's right about the lakes, Cooperman. If you have visited you'll know that they are almost all NSL apart from the villages. Inappropriate speed figures much more here than exceeding the limit, except where it has been seen fit to apply a speed limit, usually in places where inappropriate speed had affected vulnerable road users, eg Ings, Ambleside and Grasmere approaches, Crook Road. A591 Low Wood bends, along with the larger towns and villages.
Neil's ex traffic, and IIRC he did want to get back on the dept as a sergeant - (not sure about his direction now). I work opposite shifts to him and don't see him often, but I'll chat to him about his 'appearance' on this site. He may have a few things to say
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Yes, I'm a fairly regular visitor to the Lakes, the last time being as a competitor on the recent RAC Revival Rally in November in one of my Mini Coopers.
You are quite right about the main problem being inappropriate speed, although I usually refer to it as inappropriate driving, as it's more all-encompassing. In fact, most of the limits up there seem reasonable, although I do feel it is somewhat incongruous to put cameras on the M6 set at 79 mph. A guy I know who is an officer in the Met was 'pinged' at 81 mph on the M6 on a dry afternoon last year. He was incensed as he had never had an accident and is a trained Met driver (the old Clas 1). Is he likely to cause an accident? One might think not. Victim of the cash-cameras, of course.
It's certainly a beautiful part of the country in which to live. There is one demanding road I really love to drive at night and thats the Hardnott/Wrynose Pass. To be required to average 30 mph over there at night and in the wet is a true test of skill, nerve and ability.
Have a good weekend
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