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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 00:13 
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However, if we *are* going to have people punished purely on the basis of numerical speed, then imo the enforcement limit should be set substantially above the speed that a normal sensible driver would consider safe for the conditions.


The problem with your suggestion is that there is no single 'safe speed for the conditions' which applies to all drivers - in fact, not even for the same driver.


Not only that - but also within a speed limit zone the max safe speed can vary wildly. Vonhosen on Pistonheads (Police driver training chap who thinks speed limits are very important) admitted that he knew 30mph zones where 100mph may sometimes be safe and appropriate, while elsewhere in the same zone 5mph may be dangerously fast.

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Simple compromise --- ---- bring back traffic wardens, controlled by the police - have parking fines returned to the authority to fund parking services, but with local control.scrap SCP
Have some sort of funding for trafpols via results ( but not as present) --make safety the ultmate concern, not income as at present , self funding.

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reading this i can see a solution of creating an offence of driving in a dangerous manner exceeding the posted limit which acts as an extra charge not a charge in its own right, I.e. shift it from 30mph safe 31 dangerous to being a case of 35 in a 30 whilst on the phone, or driving erratically. Possibly keep the digital cameras, near schools etc but only use them at times when the danger is present. Win win as the government
can keep its cameras and also create jobs doing assesment as to whether there was any additional danger present in the pics.


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