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All,

Recently I was posted a Notice of Intended Prosecution for speeding 45mph in a 30mph zone. The letter sent states they have photographic and technical evidence and would like the name of the driver at the time of the driving offence.

Now my friend who was visiting from Greece was driving the car at the time and now has gone back home but before he left he provided me with his full name and home address in Greece (I hope)

I have tried to contact him but he now seems to be avoiding all communication with me - good friend hey!

The question I have is that if I provide his details and he ignores any correspondence from the police or the address details are not valid what will happen to me?

Also will the police ask me to prove he was insured to drive my car and if so what can I do if I can’t get hold of him anymore?

A similar event happened to me about 1.5 years whereby another friend was visiting London and he driving my car with me sleeping in the passenger seat and he apparently had a hit and run. I received a letter from the police and I filled it out with his details and never heard anything more about it.

Thank you for your help.

Be careful.

If this story is true you are in a strong and safe position. If the story is false you could possibly end up in jail for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

There are legal ways to beat speeding tickets, but lying is not a route that we would ever recommend or suggest. It isn't worth it.

It's also quite likely that Police / camera partnership staff are 'lurking' in these forums and you may be tipping them off simply by posting.

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If you are sure that the your greek friend was driving, then you must name him on the S172. To do otherwise would be an attempt to pervert the course of justice.

However, so many have tried blaming fictitious foreign nationals that the scammers will probably smell a rat. One issue is that, because you are not sure that your friend's address is valid, you might be seen to have loaned your car to a foreign national who needs his own insurance without checking his insurance document and thus failed to exercise due dilligence to establish the identity of the driver. There could be a perfectly good reason why his address doesn't seem to pan out - but the fact it doesn't could leave your position compromised WRT an S172 charge but not to one of speeding.

Your best action is not to fill in the S172 right now. Get over to PePiPoo, fill out the NIP wizard, and post the results when you ask there for advice.

Good luck,

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Will

Hi,

Thanks for the advice and yes this is a true story am I just a sucker in helping people out and getting used in the process.

Can someone tell me where the NIP wizard is located on the the site?

Thanks

http://www.pepipoo.com/NIP_wizard.php

Do yourself a favour though, and stop lending your car to people you can't trust!

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If necessary a quick telephone call to Interpol will have the police in Greece call round and speak to him and to make the relevant enquiries as to if he has / does live there etc. So, as has been said dont start what you cant finish or put it another way, if you dont want it to end in tears, I say this because if the police smell a rat they will investigate it as it moves from a speeding offence to as has been said a more serious one.
Stephen