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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 20:57 
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I was recently stopped on the A1 for doing 118mph I would never normally travel at this speed but I felt threated by a motorbike which was very close to my rear - unable to pull over into the left lane (due to traffic)I accelerated then pulled over into the left lane when able to do so. The motorway patrol car lost sight of my vehicle twice on bends and stopped me some 3.5 miles after the alleged offence.

Can I use either of the points raised above in my defence?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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simple answer really. no.
Get over to www.pepipoo.com and put a post in the forums.

give them the full facts and the might help you decide the best corse of defence , mitigation or plea.

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Driving at that speed on a 2 lane dual carriageway when the inside lane is so chocka you can't pull in there?
If you had any sense at all you would have been more worried by the speed you were passing other traffic.
Wave byebye to your licence. Don't try and fight it because quite frankly you deserve to lose it.

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ding dong

threatened ? what was he going to do.... ram you?!

120 is alot too fast imo even for a blip out of the way kind of manouvre.


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Not in a Porsche it isn't - it was a moment of madness and desperation for me and not at all the way I normally drive,the traffic officer even commented on the bike when he stopped me (bike went past me and went into the distance). I am looking for some advice guys and understand that 118 is high and the most I have been (except on track day) whilst owning my car! Any advice please?


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Stube wrote:
Not in a Porsche it isn't
If you think your reactions are fast enough to cope with driving at 118mph in traffic then you're deluded.

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- it was a moment of madness and desperation for me and not at all the way I normally drive,the traffic officer even commented on the bike when he stopped me (bike went past me and went into the distance). I am looking for some advice guys and understand that 118 is high and the most I have been (except on track day) whilst owning my car! Any advice please?


Get a good lawyer and hope you're not made an example of.

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Ask the police if they got the reg of the bike.

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Stube wrote:
Any advice please?


Be utterly honest with yourself and the court.

Frankly, the suggestion that you got pushed into doing this by an agressive motorcyclist sounds totally ludicrous to me.


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Any advice please?


Be utterly honest with yourself and the court.

Frankly, the suggestion that you got pushed into doing this by an agressive motorcyclist sounds totally ludicrous to me.


Ludicrous, Weepej? As the Dickie Lee song 'Laurie' said, "Strange Things Happen in this World."

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Not in a Porsche it isn't


yes.. on a public road, even in a porsche.


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Stube wrote:
I was recently stopped on the A1 for doing 118mph I would never normally travel at this speed but I felt threated by a motorbike which was very close to my rear - unable to pull over into the left lane (due to traffic)I accelerated then pulled over into the left lane when able to do so. The motorway patrol car lost sight of my vehicle twice on bends and stopped me some 3.5 miles after the alleged offence.

Can I use either of the points raised above in my defence?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Stube


EH?

Was this traffic "stationary or crawling".. and if so.. then the outer lane must also have been pretty busy too. You are not telling me that everyone sat in a queue whilst the outer lane was empty :popcorn:

So.. we have flowing traffic .. but busy flow. This makes 118 mph not just "speeding" but "dangerous driving" . We might have considered that on our patch of the A1. Hang on.. .. you weren't copped on our patch of the A1 were you? North East bit? :yikes:

Tailgating biker? :scratchchin: I am sure you could have eased off. He would have to have reduced his speed as well or risk falling into the traffic in the inner lane here. :roll: The ease off would have allowed you to fit and merge into a suitable gap in L1 to let the :censored: on the bike past you.

My advice? Shop around for a decent lawyer to plea for mitigation on your behalf.

When your ban is almost over.. book a course with an ADI to get your confidence and refresh skills the COAST way. :wink:

And don't do it again on our patch :nono: (in case you are the one we heard about .. :popcorn: from our lads out there :popcorn: )

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Stube wrote:
Not in a Porsche it isn't


Fingers crossed for a lengthy ban.

Attitudes like that cost lives and whilst I have sympathy with people caught exceeding limits on roads where the limit is arguably set too low you have displayed a lot of wrecklessness here.

Unfortunately after the ban is over you wont change so whats its back to telling people their loved ones have been killed in an rtc for me!


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On joining this forum I was looking for some constructive advice not opinions that I should be behind bars etc. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. I will update on the outcome when decided by the court. Does anybody know what the sentence would likely to be if found guilty?


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Dangerous driving is up to 2 years custodial sentence.

You wont get a custodial sentence tho


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Stube wrote:
On joining this forum I was looking for some constructive advice not opinions that I should be behind bars etc. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. I will update on the outcome when decided by the court. Does anybody know what the sentence would likely to be if found guilty?



I think you should shop around for solicitor.


I think.. purely based on what I read on PH und here .. und the odd perusal of other sites.. you face 6 month ban .. or 12 month if really unlucky. Or 6-11 points und whopping fine .. maybe.


Get decent legal rep. Despite apparent moment of daftness .. this your right to do so. Shop around .. library..,. yellow pages.. .. CAB.. pepipoo .. all helpful.

Hope this help. Do seek out further training with ADI after ban. It may help if you seek this out before court hearing.. as it show you regret.. accept mistake but willing to learn.

Do learn.. und there are way of dealing with the tail gater. You do not let them intimidate you... ever. Position to allow overtake,. If not possible to do so.........they liable if they rear end you. :wink: Keep calm ..look for opportunity to merge into inner lane or pull over to assist overtake.


Feather brake in SOS short-short-short.. little longer .. count to 1 sequence.. do whatever you can to alert , politely, idiot that you not feeling happy at his style behind you. :roll: There exist code abroad.. but some Brits may not understand this. :popcorn:

Maybe we do need one... which we all recognise..und how do we teach this across.. :popcorn:

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Hi Guys

Just wanted to update you on whats happening.

I was due to go to trial tomorrow but it has been adjourned by my lawyer/CPS.

It seems the calibration cert for the Unipar SL700 is invalid.

Not just my cert but all SL700 certs issued across the country.

Please see link below.


http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/FREE/309309997/1151


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Stube wrote:
Hi Guys

Just wanted to update you on whats happening.

I was due to go to trial tomorrow but it has been adjourned by my lawyer/CPS.

It seems the calibration cert for the Unipar SL700 is invalid.

Not just my cert but all SL700 certs issued across the country.

Please see link below.


http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/FREE/309309997/1151


HIYA


interesting link.


Please keep us informed. Best of luck to you.

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Stube wrote:
Hi Guys

Just wanted to update you on whats happening.

I was due to go to trial tomorrow but it has been adjourned by my lawyer/CPS.

It seems the calibration cert for the Unipar SL700 is invalid.

Not just my cert but all SL700 certs issued across the country.

Please see link below.


http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/FREE/309309997/1151


Intresting.

you might have got a "get out of jail free card"?

Lucky this time, if so, but I find your reasoning weak, like said it's not like a motorcycle is going to ram you is it, any incident is gonna cost him far dearer than the mere cosmetics you'll be looking at.

If, on the other hand, you kinda thought "I'll show this clown some dust..." Tempting, but bad decision, I've done similar speeds but never in close proximity to other cars. You never know when some muppets gonna slice out in front of you... To me, it's the possible actions of others that makes the speed differential dangerous, not the speed itself.

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Stube wrote:
Hi Guys

Just wanted to update you on whats happening.

I was due to go to trial tomorrow but it has been adjourned by my lawyer/CPS.

It seems the calibration cert for the Unipar SL700 is invalid.

Not just my cert but all SL700 certs issued across the country.

Please see link below.


http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.co.uk/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/FREE/309309997/1151


Stube,

Good on you for fighting your corner. Hope the lawyer wasn't too expensive and you get clear of this. :)

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