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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 18:39 
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No, actually. One letter is the reply you should send back to the police after you've recieved the photographic evidence you requested of the alleged offence and the other is dedicated to mobile speed cameras requesting calibration records, operators qualifications etc etc taking advantage of the LAW which states the requested information to be returned to the alleged offender in 20 days.... it drags the whole affair out and it takes too much time and effort plus it costs the state more to keep returning letters to and fro and take you to court because they know that cynical, pessimistic know-it-all's like you lot who don't contest your tickets'll keep the governments coffers stocked. Who's the mug? No mention of the PACE statement or the goddamn Hamilton Defence And all this, as I've said before, is LEGAL. You all need to get out more.

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Lying to evade punishment is never legal.


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Whereas lying on its own is perfectly legal. I've never understood that...

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rossjallen wrote:
No, actually. One letter is the reply you should send back to the police after you've recieved the photographic evidence you requested of the alleged offence

That describes exactly nothing and doesn’t rule out anything.

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and the other is dedicated to mobile speed cameras requesting calibration records, operators qualifications etc etc taking advantage of the LAW which states the requested information to be returned to the alleged offender in 20 days....

Are you in the US? You need to brush up on your UK laws regarding disclosure.

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it drags the whole affair out and it takes too much time and effort plus it costs the state more to keep returning letters to and fro and take you to court…

So your clients also have to risk the court option, for tactics the mags are now wise to? So instead of the nominal £60, your clients will be forking out the original £60, plus your £100 plus at least £35 court costs = >£195. Do you advise your clients of the likely probability of success of this tactic?

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…because they know that cynical, pessimistic know-it-all's like you lot who don't contest your tickets'll

Oh contraire! We do, we just don't give out advice which 'risks a charge of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, and that [your] customers risk charges of perjury or attempting to pervert the course of justice.' - not something you've yet denied.

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What tickets would those be?

That's true. I for one had never faced a charge of speeding.
'We do' help people contest their tickets who feel (and can explain why) they should not have been convicted.

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rossjallen wrote:
cynical, pessimistic know-it-all's like you lot who don't contest your tickets


What tickets would those be?


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