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[quote="Roger"]I have to agree that the thread should be in the soap box - I should have moved it there long ago. quote]

Just looked at P3 - And then out of the gloom appeared the only apparently sane coment - by CE - "I have to say that these PCSO threads are becoming uttter b0ll0cks!

there is no point, rhyme or reason to them.

I understood where andy was coming from to start with but now I'm completely lost.

whatever they are they don't belong in this forum, maybe soap box."

Looking at this P3, (and P3 is usualy easy on the eye ) ,would suggest that the rubbish box would be more apropriate.
However what is appearing is that some police forces (from posted content ) appear to be using these poor folk in roles that they have not been trained for( perhaps Paul's wheat out of the chaff).
What next - a gunman loose on the streets - send in 100 PCSO - the gunman has only 15 rounds - we can sort out the HSE problems tomorrow. ( bit cynical - but these people are a cheap replacement (in the eyes of our government) for a PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPED POLICE OFFICER.
What is also coming out is the failings of Govt policy - how else would we need Community Safety Wardens, Litter Wardens and parking attendants .

What i want to know is when a PVCSO will be patroling my street to fine the stray dogs for crapping outside my house or in my garden( and how they intend to get the dogs to tell them where the F88K THEY LIVE.(Or do i call the RSPCA and report that dogs are being tortured at our local council offices)


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I have to say that these PCSO threads are becoming uttter b0ll0cks!

there is no point, rhyme or reason to them.

I understood where andy was coming from to start with but now I'm completely lost.

whatever they are they don't belong in this forum, maybe soap box.

This one should be nuked though beacuse it serves no purpose.

Both sides appear to be incapable of anything appraoching reasoned debate on this issue.....i hope it's because emotions are too high!


I suggest a couple of new threads are formed along the lines of

1: should a PCSO be allowed to operate a camera

2: PCSO good or bad?

etc

But very closely moderated!

Otherwise this is all a complete waste of valauble pixels


I am sorry I have upset you by asking a question...on this forum.

I only wanted to know if PCSOs could operate (legally) laser speed traps..

They have called me a liar..and other things ..I have told them how I feel about them. I have e mailed copies of the FPN and letter of complaint we made to the police in respect of this matter to your moderators.

Moderators please confirm that my wifes FPN are real you have had sight of them. Please do not post them..but please admit their existence .

Me I am not a liar !!!!!!

The PCSOs posting here continue to call me a liar..all this is a figment of my imagination...just what you can expect from PCSOs :( :(

I am glad people about 4000 have read these posts..and some can relate to our experience ...

I came here for advice...is that what this site is about..safe speeds and INFORMING PEOPLE OF THEIR RIGHT S when facing prosecution for motoring offences. ????

I hope that you are not posting here soon when these PCSOs target you instead of us. They are not real PCs and are dangerous..!!!!


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Afternoon Andy, see you've gone back to your old self :shock: (no surprise there then)

So you are incapable of having an adult discussion.

To be honest............andy

I don't believe a word of what you've said. Not a bit of it, and I can smell bull a mile off.

You've done nothing to lend credibility to your case, nothingto help yourself, again you resort to childish rants, you contradict yourself, flex your muscles when you get panicked.

At best I'd say you've probably failed the entrance test for PCSO at worst you're a troll. Anyway I don't believe you.

Having readyourposts in detail, it's easy to see when you get riled, because you panic, and type somthing in to attract attention elsewhere, like your disabled wife, your kid being ill in hospital, you flex your muscles (C&R). Ignore some very pertinent points, refuse to answer questions, etc, etc, etc

I really can't be bothered with you. I don't suffer fools gladly and thankfully I won't be suffering you at all, again.

So post what you want dishonestandy, dig up all the old news articles you want. In fact have a look on www.nationalpcso.co.uk, lots of material on there.

Because Andy we've quantified all we've said, we've evidenced it, hell you even know our job title.

All you'vedone is claim to be a prison officer, then denied it, then said you work in a specialist team, in a secure establishment (but don't work )nights) Drive an IRV and have done some courses, which even I've done :roll:

Put it this way my brother (the real PO) says you're full of sh*t,buthey that's not me :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

So bye bye Andy, good luck with your complaint (if it exists)

Try this web site for help http://www.educational-psychologist.co.uk/anger.htm

'cos you need it :twisted: :twisted:


Oh yeah, tell your wife to slow down, there's a good chap :D :D :D :D :bighand:


You KNOW nothing... !!! :( :( :( :( :(

I am going to HMP Manchester in the next week what is your brothers name ????


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First --Honestandy - i like you think that PVCSO are just that - plastic police.

HOWEVER -- some real police do post Real advice on this site -and let me assure you that from my almost 40 years on the road these blokes know their onions - proper traffic cops , not the plastic traffic cops you allude to .
I wold suggest that you could do no worse than sit back , and worship at the alter of our resident traffic cops - i came on here with 30+ years driving experience ,willing to learn more , and they wilingly passed on more information.
This is from Police Class one Drivers ( i say drivers, cause there are more than one ) ----sit back - learn - if i with 40 years driving record, and a massive no claims bonus can learn , and admitt to it- what benefit to you - unless you are too proud to admit that you do not know it all.
This site is about sharing driving experiences - we may fight - but we all agree that our aim is to advance driving ----stop bickering, come on in and learn.


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I will be guided by your good words...

I am at a loss to understand why Merseyside Police are using PCSOs to use the LASER !!. Surely the business of properly trained traffic policemen.. I think !!!!

I have seen them operate the laser at where my wife was stopped many times.

I have complained..on behalf of my wife and have received a letter that the police are looking at the information and will come back to us.

I have been driving around and seen two PCSOs operating laser machines from tripods on their own. Yellow small police van parked nearby....it is beyond me.

My wife was not speeding on the day in question. I am not a traffic police man ... I dont know how these laser.. lti vans work... but i do know my wife was not speeding. I as just behind her on the day in question ...

I only see what I see with my own eyes and please excuse me again..PCSO do not impress me..

Not from what I have seen this far !!!!

Please I am entitled to my own opinion ....


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Well with Si gone (the ONLY same person in the thread) I’m going to find another thread on another website, your more of a child than me!

I’ve been nice…doesn’t work, been harsh….doesn’t work…been reasonable…doesn’t work.

Your just a Troll!!!

By the way, a TROLL = a person who goes on a website, talks about something they know nothing about, talks crap as if it’s gospel, insults people, uses large multicolored font to express his rage. Just incase Andy thinks a Troll is a swear word and goes off on one asking for people to be banned as there swearing at him in German.

Andy you have been asked to post the letter of receipt from the force you complained to, they always send this letter, it will have the forces stamp on it, so you should have received one, it was suggested that you blank out the sensitive part i.e. your name address etc.

You have failed to do this, even though it would have proven you were not making this whole thing up and making PCSO’s look bad.

Well, will you post it? Nope, not even to the mod’s, not in a million years, why? Because it doesn’t exist, hence being called a liar. (justified me thinks)

End of the day, not a single person in here as any real idea of what PCSO’s do other than dog poo….. quick quote I found on a PCSO’s blogg may explain they do a little more than fine people for letting dogs poo (which by the way, some people really think is a horrible thing to step in, something should be done about it and someone has to do it)

Here is what a random PCSO does…

From PCSO_Blogger
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That’s all I ever hear! “all PCSO’s ever do and have powers to do, is walk around aimlessly, they don’t help the police and they don’t help the community”
That’s what I have read on the Net, it sure isn’t like that where I work!
Here is a basic list of what we do here and just for reference they are all force policy, not just because we fancy making work for ourselves, if we weren’t here a PC would have to do it.
1. CCTV collections and booking in to property stores
2. Exhibits collections and booking in to property stores
3. Neighborhood disputes
4. Neighborhood meetings
5. Resident meetings
6. Tenants associations meetings
7. Transport witnesses to the ID suit
8. On occasion drive prison vans to and from custody
9. Burglary visits (giving burglary packs with an explanation of how to secure property UV mark and post code mark expensive items
10. Collect and book in drugs from clubs etc
11. Area searches for Missing persons “Mispers”
12. Scene Guards (that’s a biggie)
13. Serve ASBO’s, Injunctions, Exclusion Notices
14. Remove and await collection for stolen motor vehicles
15. Await collection for abandoned vehicles
16. Traffic control and clearing up the road surface at road traffic accidents
17. Await board-up for houses that have had doors put in or criminal damage/burglaries where properties are insecure and the owners are not around.
18. Assist crowd control and traffic control for demonstrations and marches
19. Drive around PC’s with no licenses or officers not BDA trained
20. House to House inquiries for burglaries, car break-ins/attempt car beark-ins, assaults, damage, robberies etc
21. Enquiries at pawn shops regarding recently stolen property.
22. Submitting intelligence reports
23. Deliver flyers/police literature
All of the above and not forgetting the usual tasks we are expected to deal with as and when.
• Street drinkers
• Rough sleepers
• Beggars
• Graffiti/fly posting
• Youth disorder on Friday/Sat nights, taking kids home, to the nick, waiting with them till mum and dad pick them up, seizing beer and fags from them
• Regular Operations dealing with anything from High Viz to drinking in the street, youth problems, school Ops,
• Dealing with cyclists on pavements
• Removing vehicles obstructing people’s driveways, obstructing the roads etc.
• Drunks asleep in the street
• Assisting in RTC’s administering first Aid
• Collecting weapons for knife and gun amnesties etc
• Collecting statements from Security Guards who write their own and bringing it back for the PC’s
• Dealing with anything we walk in to on the street (very time consuming)
All of this plus being the eyes and ears of our force, taking any info we get from public, problems they have and acting on them.
That’s why I get a little annoyed when I hear PC’s and random people (again not in my area and my nick) stating all we do is sit in the office on the internet, then go for a walk and wonder around aimlessly till the shifts over.
It’s just not like that here! And that’s before these Standard Powers come in and we get more powers/responsibilities/jobs.


So as you can see, that’s a little more than ticketing for poo.

Andy needs to be taken down a peg or two, which we have done.

I’m off now, bored to death of Andy talking like a lunatic, making things up and pretending to be superman who drives IRV’s, and then everyone sticking up for him, even though he is a proven liar.

I’m also bored to death of peoples ignorant opinions on things they have little knowledge.
Stick to speeding offences, you know a lot, granted, nothing about PCSO’s whatsoever, and little on Law and order, except what you read in the Anti-newspapers.
There are no PCSO’s in here, other than Si, there are no PC’s/Ex PC's in here again, other than Si.
But yet you all know more than Si. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No need to reply Andy, unless you’re posting the letter of receipt of complaint, which you’ll never do.
We’ve heard your uneducated opinions, I’ve never met anyone who hated a job more than you, I’m going to have to agree with Si here, your defiantly be a failed PCSO applicant, I hear the test and recruitment is pretty similar to a PC’s nowadays, so don’t feel so bad. :roll:


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Well with Si gone (the ONLY same person in the thread) I’m going to find another thread on another website, your more of a child than me!

I’ve been nice…doesn’t work, been harsh….doesn’t work…been reasonable…doesn’t work.

Your just a Troll!!!

By the way, a TROLL = a person who goes on a website, talks about something they know nothing about, talks crap as if it’s gospel, insults people, uses large multicolored font to express his rage. Just incase Andy thinks a Troll is a swear word and goes off on one asking for people to be banned as there swearing at him in German.

Andy you have been asked to post the letter of receipt from the force you complained to, they always send this letter, it will have the forces stamp on it, so you should have received one, it was suggested that you blank out the sensitive part i.e. your name address etc.

You have failed to do this, even though it would have proven you were not making this whole thing up and making PCSO’s look bad.

Well, will you post it? Nope, not even to the mod’s, not in a million years, why? Because it doesn’t exist, hence being called a liar. (justified me thinks)

End of the day, not a single person in here as any real idea of what PCSO’s do other than dog poo….. quick quote I found on a PCSO’s blogg may explain they do a little more than fine people for letting dogs poo (which by the way, some people really think is a horrible thing to step in, something should be done about it and someone has to do it)

Here is what a random PCSO does…

From PCSO_Blogger
Quote:
That’s all I ever hear! “all PCSO’s ever do and have powers to do, is walk around aimlessly, they don’t help the police and they don’t help the community”
That’s what I have read on the Net, it sure isn’t like that where I work!
Here is a basic list of what we do here and just for reference they are all force policy, not just because we fancy making work for ourselves, if we weren’t here a PC would have to do it.
1. CCTV collections and booking in to property stores
2. Exhibits collections and booking in to property stores
3. Neighborhood disputes
4. Neighborhood meetings
5. Resident meetings
6. Tenants associations meetings
7. Transport witnesses to the ID suit
8. On occasion drive prison vans to and from custody
9. Burglary visits (giving burglary packs with an explanation of how to secure property UV mark and post code mark expensive items
10. Collect and book in drugs from clubs etc
11. Area searches for Missing persons “Mispers”
12. Scene Guards (that’s a biggie)
13. Serve ASBO’s, Injunctions, Exclusion Notices
14. Remove and await collection for stolen motor vehicles
15. Await collection for abandoned vehicles
16. Traffic control and clearing up the road surface at road traffic accidents
17. Await board-up for houses that have had doors put in or criminal damage/burglaries where properties are insecure and the owners are not around.
18. Assist crowd control and traffic control for demonstrations and marches
19. Drive around PC’s with no licenses or officers not BDA trained
20. House to House inquiries for burglaries, car break-ins/attempt car beark-ins, assaults, damage, robberies etc
21. Enquiries at pawn shops regarding recently stolen property.
22. Submitting intelligence reports
23. Deliver flyers/police literature
All of the above and not forgetting the usual tasks we are expected to deal with as and when.
• Street drinkers
• Rough sleepers
• Beggars
• Graffiti/fly posting
• Youth disorder on Friday/Sat nights, taking kids home, to the nick, waiting with them till mum and dad pick them up, seizing beer and fags from them
• Regular Operations dealing with anything from High Viz to drinking in the street, youth problems, school Ops,
• Dealing with cyclists on pavements
• Removing vehicles obstructing people’s driveways, obstructing the roads etc.
• Drunks asleep in the street
• Assisting in RTC’s administering first Aid
• Collecting weapons for knife and gun amnesties etc
• Collecting statements from Security Guards who write their own and bringing it back for the PC’s
• Dealing with anything we walk in to on the street (very time consuming)
All of this plus being the eyes and ears of our force, taking any info we get from public, problems they have and acting on them.
That’s why I get a little annoyed when I hear PC’s and random people (again not in my area and my nick) stating all we do is sit in the office on the internet, then go for a walk and wonder around aimlessly till the shifts over.
It’s just not like that here! And that’s before these Standard Powers come in and we get more powers/responsibilities/jobs.


So as you can see, that’s a little more than ticketing for poo.

Andy needs to be taken down a peg or two, which we have done.

I’m off now, bored to death of Andy talking like a lunatic, making things up and pretending to be superman who drives IRV’s, and then everyone sticking up for him, even though he is a proven liar.

I’m also bored to death of peoples ignorant opinions on things they have little knowledge.
Stick to speeding offences, you know a lot, granted, nothing about PCSO’s whatsoever, and little on Law and order, except what you read in the Anti-newspapers.
There are no PCSO’s in here, other than Si, there are no PC’s/Ex PC's in here again, other than Si.
But yet you all know more than Si. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No need to reply Andy, unless you’re posting the letter of receipt of complaint, which you’ll never do.
We’ve heard your uneducated opinions, I’ve never met anyone who hated a job more than you, I’m going to have to agree with Si here, your defiantly be a failed PCSO applicant, I hear the test and recruitment is pretty similar to a PC’s nowadays, so don’t feel so bad. :roll:


My reply to you is very simple...

You like ... BIG SI ...know nothing !!!


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**Mike** wrote:
Well with Si gone (the ONLY same person in the thread) I’m going to find another thread on another website, your more of a child than me!

I’ve been nice…doesn’t work, been harsh….doesn’t work…been reasonable…doesn’t work.

Your just a Troll!!!

By the way, a TROLL = a person who goes on a website, talks about something they know nothing about, talks crap as if it’s gospel, insults people, uses large multicolored font to express his rage. Just incase Andy thinks a Troll is a swear word and goes off on one asking for people to be banned as there swearing at him in German.

Andy you have been asked to post the letter of receipt from the force you complained to, they always send this letter, it will have the forces stamp on it, so you should have received one, it was suggested that you blank out the sensitive part i.e. your name address etc.

You have failed to do this, even though it would have proven you were not making this whole thing up and making PCSO’s look bad.

Well, will you post it? Nope, not even to the mod’s, not in a million years, why? Because it doesn’t exist, hence being called a liar. (justified me thinks)

End of the day, not a single person in here as any real idea of what PCSO’s do other than dog poo….. quick quote I found on a PCSO’s blogg may explain they do a little more than fine people for letting dogs poo (which by the way, some people really think is a horrible thing to step in, something should be done about it and someone has to do it)

Here is what a random PCSO does…

From PCSO_Blogger
Quote:
That’s all I ever hear! “all PCSO’s ever do and have powers to do, is walk around aimlessly, they don’t help the police and they don’t help the community”
That’s what I have read on the Net, it sure isn’t like that where I work!
Here is a basic list of what we do here and just for reference they are all force policy, not just because we fancy making work for ourselves, if we weren’t here a PC would have to do it.
1. CCTV collections and booking in to property stores
2. Exhibits collections and booking in to property stores
3. Neighborhood disputes
4. Neighborhood meetings
5. Resident meetings
6. Tenants associations meetings
7. Transport witnesses to the ID suit
8. On occasion drive prison vans to and from custody
9. Burglary visits (giving burglary packs with an explanation of how to secure property UV mark and post code mark expensive items
10. Collect and book in drugs from clubs etc
11. Area searches for Missing persons “Mispers”
12. Scene Guards (that’s a biggie)
13. Serve ASBO’s, Injunctions, Exclusion Notices
14. Remove and await collection for stolen motor vehicles
15. Await collection for abandoned vehicles
16. Traffic control and clearing up the road surface at road traffic accidents
17. Await board-up for houses that have had doors put in or criminal damage/burglaries where properties are insecure and the owners are not around.
18. Assist crowd control and traffic control for demonstrations and marches
19. Drive around PC’s with no licenses or officers not BDA trained
20. House to House inquiries for burglaries, car break-ins/attempt car beark-ins, assaults, damage, robberies etc
21. Enquiries at pawn shops regarding recently stolen property.
22. Submitting intelligence reports
23. Deliver flyers/police literature
All of the above and not forgetting the usual tasks we are expected to deal with as and when.
• Street drinkers
• Rough sleepers
• Beggars
• Graffiti/fly posting
• Youth disorder on Friday/Sat nights, taking kids home, to the nick, waiting with them till mum and dad pick them up, seizing beer and fags from them
• Regular Operations dealing with anything from High Viz to drinking in the street, youth problems, school Ops,
• Dealing with cyclists on pavements
• Removing vehicles obstructing people’s driveways, obstructing the roads etc.
• Drunks asleep in the street
• Assisting in RTC’s administering first Aid
• Collecting weapons for knife and gun amnesties etc
• Collecting statements from Security Guards who write their own and bringing it back for the PC’s
• Dealing with anything we walk in to on the street (very time consuming)
All of this plus being the eyes and ears of our force, taking any info we get from public, problems they have and acting on them.
That’s why I get a little annoyed when I hear PC’s and random people (again not in my area and my nick) stating all we do is sit in the office on the internet, then go for a walk and wonder around aimlessly till the shifts over.
It’s just not like that here! And that’s before these Standard Powers come in and we get more powers/responsibilities/jobs.


So as you can see, that’s a little more than ticketing for poo.

Andy needs to be taken down a peg or two, which we have done.

I’m off now, bored to death of Andy talking like a lunatic, making things up and pretending to be superman who drives IRV’s, and then everyone sticking up for him, even though he is a proven liar.

I’m also bored to death of peoples ignorant opinions on things they have little knowledge.
Stick to speeding offences, you know a lot, granted, nothing about PCSO’s whatsoever, and little on Law and order, except what you read in the Anti-newspapers.
There are no PCSO’s in here, other than Si, there are no PC’s/Ex PC's in here again, other than Si.
But yet you all know more than Si. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No need to reply Andy, unless you’re posting the letter of receipt of complaint, which you’ll never do.
We’ve heard your uneducated opinions, I’ve never met anyone who hated a job more than you, I’m going to have to agree with Si here, your defiantly be a failed PCSO applicant, I hear the test and recruitment is pretty similar to a PC’s nowadays, so don’t feel so bad. :roll:



I am wrong about you...for 14 years of age ..YOU ARE Brilliant !!! God bless you !!!!!! :lol: 8-) :o :cry:


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for 14 years of age ..YOU ARE Brilliant !!! God bless you !!!!!! Laughing Cool Surprised Crying or Very sad


Thank you, that’s what my old man says. :lol: :lol:

Ow and I’m nearer to 15!

Andy, two simple questions because I want to move on now.

1) Do you think you know more than a PCSO/Ex PC regarding the role of PCSO?
2) Will you ever post the letter of receipt?

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :stupidme: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :trolls:


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Now watch him avoid the question.


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Where do you get the popcorn ??????

You call me... 1.42am in the morning, and your still writing here ??? :P :P :P

Where do you get the time to go to work/school ??? :( :( :(

I dont know.. ???


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Honestandy wrote:
Where do you get the popcorn ??????

You call me... 1.42am in the morning, and your still writing here ??? :P :P :P

Where do you get the time to go to work/school ??? :( :( :(

I dont know.. ???


1.42am, dear o dear, I’m at boarding school, keep up.
I study between 830am through to 4pm mess around with friends till 8is, then surf the internet until 2ish in the morning (sometimes) that gives me at least 6/7/8 hours sleep each night. The human body needs at least 4hours sleep a night.


But well done avoiding the questions.!!

There are no Traffic PC’s in this thread, no PC’s/Ex PC’s in this thread (other than Si) and no PCSO’s in this thread (other than Si)

We are disregarding everything Si says and choosing to believe stories from the papers and random grumpy EX Chief Constables, why?
Si has been nothing but professional faced with a Troll, he has shown the role in a good light.

Andy, again…

1) Do you think you know more than a PCSO/Ex PC regarding the role of PCSO?
2) Will you ever post the letter of receipt?

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Now watch him avoid the question.

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Hi all,

This is how proffesional our PCSOs are...

this was sent by BIG SI to my private mailbox this morning....

From: big-si
To: Honestandy
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:17 am
Subject: Re: PCSO
Bye Bye dishonestandy,


PS you're a c*nt :D


Told you what they were all along...abusive..professional and are supposed to be honest PCSOs ..dont make me laugh !!!!

What a waste ....


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 02:32 
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Honestandy wrote:
Hi all,

This is how proffesional our PCSOs are...

this was sent by BIG SI to my private mailbox this morning....

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To: Honestandy
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:17 am
Subject: Re: PCSO
Bye Bye dishonestandy,


PS you're a c*nt :D


Told you what they were all along...abusive..professional and are supposed to be honest PCSOs ..dont make me laugh !!!!

What a waste ....




Andy, you have not copy and pasted that from your Private Message box, if you did it would have certain comers in certain places. (see below) you’ve obviously made it up to make Si look bad, that’s wrong mate!

For example, here is a PM from Roger to me, sorry Roger, but it’s the only PM I have received so need to use it.

Copy and pasted from my Messages :

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From: Roger To: **Mike** Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:40 am Subject: Re: Doppelganger
**Mike** wrote:
i have posted stating I am both... please feel free to delete the PCSO one.. cheers. sorry didnt realise the duplacate users was not allowed....ooops.

regards Mike


Understood.

I've effaced PCSO879's registration - his posts remain though.

Please continue to enjoy the forums - but try not to wind HA up too much!

When that spat is dealt with, I hope we can genuinely see each side's perspective in less abrasive terms. There is quitr a bit of common ground.


Roger

ps - you'll have TWO e-mails telling you of PMs from me; I inadvertently deleted this one that I don't think you'd read. If you had - this is a duplicate!


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:flamethrow: :trolls:





:roll:




:popcorn:


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it’s the only PM I have received so need to use it.

Why did you need to use it? Why do you feel you need to stand up for someone else? The content you quoted asked you not to try to wind up HA too much. 50% of your last posts are aimed at just that - or am I mistaken?

It really doesn't matter who has the last word. Anyone following this board for the original point has long since lost interes; anyone following the spat - and there will be a few saddos wanting to (plus moderators who are obliged to) will have formed opinions by now without anyone rubbing extra salt in.


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As it’s become obvious some people can’t keep PM’s private, If I where you Roger I’d call it a day and now delete this whole thread. It’s just turning into a boring, uninformative war of words.

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To be honest, had Andy posted these letters and FPN, we would have continued with the valid debate over PCSOs and lasers, sure there were some cheeky remarks (to lighten things up a bit) but all designed to get that fine and letter posted so we can see and progress.

I’ve used the internet for quite some time now and the most entertaining thing you can come across is an ignorant troll, nevertheless he will never prove his wasn’t making this whole thing up, he is never going to post the papers, so I guess we will never progress and get back on topic.

I agree, nuke this thread.

Ps sorry about the PM, again, it was the only one I had so needed to copy and past to show Andy his PM was home made.


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