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Not me, no.

Other expirenced drivers, maybe. Since family and friends live in same town, I figure its worth a go.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

I have clients in Kent/Greater London, inside the M25. Not in the area where this person was stopped. I have no reason to go that far into Kent.

As for the other accusation - let's clear this up. "pratnership" accused someone else on another forum of harbouring child pornography on their computer, simply because they knew how to hide files from hackers (and as a side effect from law enforcement).

While this was a third party posting, "pratnership", posting under the name "Mr_B", stated that he believed it to be me. So indirectly it was in fact me he was making the accusation against.

He was subsequently banned from that forum. Then, surprise surprise, he turns up here and starts launching another tirade of personal attacks on me.

If his track record is anything to go by the next thing will be accusations of involvement with under-aged girls. And it'll spiral from there.

This is indeed someone who, by his own admission, has a personal vendetta against me. And clearly has joined this forum just to start trouble after getting banned from another forum in which he carried out a similar "hate campaign" against me.

So mods - can we knock this on the head, NOW. Thanks.

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Magistrates rule #1: "Never let justice get in the way of a conviction."

The correct facts:

I did not accuse anyone. Please post a link proving otherwise.

You have been banned from that forum many times from different usernames (including your last one), confirmed by the webmaster.

I have not launched any personal attacks, in fact Im keeping it as impartial as possible. I could post a number of damning links, which you well know. Its only fair I state that I dislike you, people are in full possession of the facts then, including taking into account any bias they might think I have. You can't say fairer than that.



Again, untrue. Please post proof otherwise. Ive have stated again and again I have issues with your driving.





I diagree. Possibly it should be in another thread, but certainly not stopped.

I am refraining from anything personal, no-one knows your name, no-one has to know whom you are except that you drive in a certain area.

So for all intents and purposes, your just a username that is accused of driving dangerously and agressively. You can argue your place on here easily.

I think Im justified, in that Im concerned for various people I care about, and thats justified by your various postings about your driving (be it boasts or not).

I know there is no point me trying to point this out to you, Ive tried. So as Ive said twice already, Im hoping some expirenced members can view some of your posts and give you an opinion.

So, if your going to carry out going for costs, I'll leave this thread and start another. Or possibly do that anyway, as its not the right section for this sort of discussion.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

But it would be/is a discussion in which only two of you are actually in possession of all the facts. The rest of us would simply have to make an educated guess as to who is giving us the truth, the whole truth etc.
Not really a discussion then is it, or an objective one at least.

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Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Well Im working on the theory that explanations like this: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16402

Are semi accurate. Since there are a lot of them, at the very least Im hoping that drivers on here that have been driving for xx amount of years can say that its not right to come across so many 'aggressive' drivers.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

If you know him personally, email him, or even give him a ring!

Then the rest of us won't have to read your private vendetta.

You missed the bit where I said I already tried.

Because I have a lower powered car than him, his opinion is that anything I say is irrelevant.

Serious question, what would you do if someone you knew drove dangerously in the town which had your family and friends in?

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

Not much. I certainly wouldn't go onto a forum and bore everyone whining about it.
Yes he sounds like (if your links are true) a drive with a bad attitude and poor judgement. We can see that, he probably knows it - but going on about it endlessly on a thread on a site full of people who don't know him isn't going to stop him.

Drivers dangerous habits and inability are only ever going to really look at themselves once they crash - just the way it is. Same as people who take drugs on a weekly (or daily) basis - won't even stop to think about it until they or a close friend O.D or something.

It's ok to them until they die in a crash, and then it's too late to learn anyway.

Actually no, you haven't tried anything.

You were rude and abusive to me on another forum.

You repeatedly sent me unwanted private messages on another forum - after I'd publically asked you not to. You therefore forced the admin of that site to incorporate a "block private message" function.

You've accused me of driving dangerously - yet you've never been in the car with me, or even followed me. You claimed to have seen me on one occasion, however at the time I was nowhere near the location you gave - and you admitted that you only saw the other driver for a split second.

And now you come on here with a personal vendetta and try and drag this forum down to the same level as the one you got banned from.

You're right about one thing though. Anything you say is, indeed, irrelevant. But this has nothing to do with the size or power of your car's engine. And everything to do with the size of your IQ.

Just to recap - I hold an IAM advanced driving license. I also have a Class B competition racing license. I've taken part in high-speed driver training with a serving police officer sat in the passenger seat. And yet you still try and judge me based on "sexed up" comments that were clearly posted in a spleen-venting forum. In fact I'm expecting your little lapdog girlfriend to turn up on here any moment to get a dig in as well.

This is not the Wotton forum. This is not your little playground. People on here don't give a stuff about what might have been said on another forum, whether over-dramatised or not.

People on here however do give a stuff about you coming on here and disrupting the board.

Now I shall make a resolution to only respond to your future drivel where you've made a specific allegation about me, and I shall only respond to it by rebuking it. That aside I shall simply show you the contempt you deserve by ignoring you and your inane and deranged ramblings.

mmltonge - just ignore "pratnership", I'm convinced he's got some kind of mental disorder. Why else would he go to all the trouble to sign up to this forum just so he can have a go at me? Pretty pathetic to be honest.

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Magistrates rule #1: "Never let justice get in the way of a conviction."

I have, and its there for all to see on the town site.



If I was, provide proof, where as I can provide the links to you calling me a nazi, window licker, etc. Also insulting my girlfriend, which made me lose my rag and got me banned.



2, and thats over a year ago, because I felt it unfair to give out your personal details on the forum, a courtesy you didnt extend.



The whole forum accused you of driving dangerously - as it sensibly would when those links were posted by other people. And I did see you, considering I got the car colour right, and I could have also given the licence plate too, as I could easily ask someone along the road what it was. However I didnt, because I didnt see the licence plate, I was looking at the driver.



Not at all, I have refrained from posting anything personal except quotes from yourself about your driving, despite many lies on here from you once again. I can link all of those claims of yours above to the other forum, and see them smashed, but no-one wants to see slanging match.




Which proves my point about me not making personal quotes or being insulting, where you are.



A bit of relevant information. As I have told you before, having done those does not automatically mean you drive safely. In regards to your comments, sexed up and spleen venting is not good enough. You cannot say they are exaggerations, they would have to be downright untrue.

Did you or did you not do those speeds you quoted?

Did you or did you not slam your brakes on in front of at least 2 cars for angering you (albeit by being dangerous)?




Indeed its not. You said its a place of sensible drivers, which would hopefully make you listen to the comments of other drivers. I didnt bother posting on HMW, because it seemed a bit childish.




Bear in mind I didnt pretend to be a woman and someone else on the other site, just to sign up again once banned. Everything I have said is the truth, and if you can find anything anywhere that discredits *anything* I have said, feel free to post it. If you want me to back up any of the claims above, I'll gives links just to prove Im not lying.


Standing back and looking at this from a distance, I can see how it looks like a vendetta, but Im not sure what else I can do exactly. Cant call the police, because its not exactly evidence online. Cant talk to him personally, cant exactly move family away from there....so may as well post here in the free time I have at work.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

Well, Im sure most dont anyway

Decided to start a new thread in the correct forum, hopefully it will remain free from any personal comments, it certainly shall from my end anyway.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

The answer is staring you in the face.

What you can do is turn around and leave, and take your little vendetta with you.

In case you hadn't noticed nobody on here is getting worked up about comments I may have made in jest (or in spleen-venting mode) on another forum. People are however getting worked up about you coming on here with an axe to grind - for no apparent reason - and disrupting this forum.

You're also being highly disrespectful to Paul by your actions, and for that you're totally out of order.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Magistrates rule #1: "Never let justice get in the way of a conviction."

Good grief, how dare you accuse me of being disrespectful to Paul.

Weather I agree with speed cameras or not (I dont, for the time being), its obvious to anyone with a brain that what he campaigned for he felt was for safety. Ive read many many sections on this site, including all the figures hes done and put together. And the challenges he has given out to various people. A good read, many of them.

Whatever you think of his stance, he was a dedicated bloke who put a lot of his time and effort into this for the pure benefit of others.

I am creating a new thread, which I am doing for the reasons said before -

Im worried about people I care about in my home town. Admittedly thats slightly selfish, but its still road safety and thats what this forum is dedicated to.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

You've come on this site purely to pursue a personal vendetta against me. No amount of wrapping it up in colourful language will change that fact. And for that reason you are being totally disrespectful to Paul.

You are simply a troublemaker who enjoys the attention, and I hope that for the sake of sanity others on this forum realise that.

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Magistrates rule #1: "Never let justice get in the way of a conviction."

Yours is a disgusting attempt to get me banned. I respect people like Paul, whom has evidently taken lots of time out to personally help people out in the forums and via email and phone. I always will have respect for people that take time out to help others.

I am going to carry on with that other thread, and if you feel its wrong, then report it to the mods and they can decide.

Ive given my reasons, and Ive strayed away from making any personal insults at all, unlike you.

Now, your welcome to comment on the thread I make, but unless your carrying out action on this thread (as to claiming money back), its died its death.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

Enough is enough.

I'm locking this thread.

You will BOTH refrain from continuing this personal "argument" on SafeSpeed in future. You can debate the issues but NOT by attacking each other personally. If you ignore this request I WILL get the admins to suspend the offender(s)

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likewise gold and jewels,
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