Safe Speed Forums

The campaign for genuine road safety
It is currently Tue May 26, 2026 13:14

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 18:34 
Offline
New User
New User

Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2005 17:57
Posts: 1
:? I paid a "Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty" (£60 and 3 points) because I thought it was a waste of time complaining. Due to the publicity on the TV I checked my Fixed penalty notice. Where it says "We have evidence that you were the driver of vehicle registration No.D2FTC SU" My registration No. is D2 FTC. with no SU. Is this correct? Is there something I can do?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 17:05 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2004 15:43
Posts: 2416
No idea what the SU bit means, but it's not on a sample copy of a Sussex conditional fixed penalty offer, though other than that the wording is the same. Asked Pepipoo yet?

_________________
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 03:49 
Offline
New User
New User

Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 03:36
Posts: 1
I just paid up as well, the Northamptonshire police sommons said something like: don't bother asking for camera calibration certicicates as the equipment is self calibrating???? oh well..


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 13:09 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 02:50
Posts: 2868
Location: Dorset
barry1961 wrote:
I just paid up as well, the Northamptonshire police sommons said something like: don't bother asking for camera calibration certicicates as the equipment is self calibrating???? oh well..

That'll be the LTi 20/20? It can never give inaccurate readings ever so why should it need calibrating? It's run on fairy dust and the fairies calibrate it automagically.

*ahem*

Even something that is self calibrating would need to be tested every now and then?

Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty... Pay up, take points and we won't take you to court where you'll likely end up paying more. What's the definition of "blackmail"?

As for the "SU" if that's the only error it's probably to small to be of any use to you, they are allowed to make small mistakes such as mis-spelling names without it affecting the legality, or at least that is how I understand it works in court.

_________________
Andrew.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 17:44 
Offline
Life Member
Life Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 22:02
Posts: 3266
The reality is that if you usually drive that road it probobly was you.
My friend got a ticket reading sz53abc when it should have read s253abc
the scary thing was it was just 20 miles from home both cars were fiestas.



It is incredibly hard to undo a fixed penalty once you have paid. I would be interested to hear from any one who has suceeded as I have one to chalange myself and woulld like to know where best to start!

_________________
Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 19:30 
Offline
Life Member
Life Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2004 13:36
Posts: 1339
Ziltro wrote:
Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty... Pay up, take points and we won't take you to court where you'll likely end up paying more. What's the definition of "blackmail"?


A person commits blackmail:

Quote:
if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief:

(a) that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and
(b) that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand.


In the case of a fixed penalty, a and b both apply, so there is no offence.

If however, the fixed penalty was given to a known innocent person it may be blackmail. Also, if a person paid a fixed penalty and the police later found out they were innocent, retaining the money could be the offence of 'retaining a wrongful credit'.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.014s | 10 Queries | GZIP : Off ]