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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:27 
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:gatso2: From the Belfast Telegraph

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 24795.html

Concerns have been raised that Belfast isn't safe for cycling after a woman was badly injured after being hit by a car during the rushhour.

The cyclist, aged in her 40s, is recovering after she was hit at Stewart Street, close to East Bridge Street yesterday.

She was taken to hospital and was said to be in a stable condition last night.

The accident has highlighted the dangers for cyclists on Belfast's busy roads as the number of people choosing to cycle is increasing.

Two cyclists have already died on Northern Ireland roads this year, including a father-of-two outside Newry last week.

Four bike riders were killed last year.

Former Lord Mayor and keen cyclist, Tom Hartley, said riding a bicycle in Belfast was "hairy" and "dangerous".

He said: "There are bad conditions on our roads for cyclists."

A combination of improving road users' awareness and Belfast's cycling infrastructure will be needed to reduce the danger on the city's roads, according to experts.

But although Government initiatives exist, rapid progress cannot be expected.

Jonathan Hobbs of Northern Ireland Greenways said the cycling environment on the Albert Bridge near where yesterday's accident occurred was "intimidating".

He said the natural growth of "more people cycling, more often, and further" necessitated investment in cycling infrastructure for the city.

Regional Development Minister Danny Kennedy has already established a dedicated cycle unit in his department and has recognised the limitations of existing infrastructure for cyclists. The effects of this have yet to be felt on Belfast's streets, but the DRD unit is hoping to build long-term, practical and cultural change.

Gordon Clarke, national director of Sustrans Northern Ireland, which campaigns for safer travelling routes, said: "Unfortunately, as the number of cyclists increases so do the number of collisions between vehicles and bikes.

"There is an urgent need to improve infrastructure, create 20mph speed limits, and provide adults and children with on-road cycle training."

Cyclists are around 10 times more likely to be killed than the average road user in Northern Ireland, according to Wesley Johnston of the Northern Ireland Roads campaign group.

And cyclists were over-represented in deaths on Northern Ireland roads last year, according to PSNI data.

Although cyclists comprised only 0.5% of distance travelled in Northern Ireland, they made up 5% of fatalities for 2012/13, Mr Johnston said.

Máirtín Ó Muilleoir, Sinn Fein councillor and former Lord Mayor, said: "Putting up with bikes is not good enough – we need to welcome cyclists.

"For Belfast to be a truly great cycling city we need to get better at bike safety and we need to have more bike lanes and safe cycling areas."

Mr Ó Muilleoir and Mr Hartley both called for increased numbers of cycle lanes, unimpeded by parked cars.

The number of police-recorded cycling traffic casualties across Northern Ireland for January to July 2014 was 57 higher than the same period last year.

"It's horrifying and a real imperative upon us to do better.

"We were going in the right direction and I don't know why it's going back," Mr Ó Muilleoir added.

The Department of the Environment (DoE) launched a new safety campaign focusing on the vulnerability of cyclists and the mutual responsibility of cyclists and drivers to "engage with each other emotionally".

A DoE spokesperson said: "DoE is working closely with other agencies to support the vision of more cycling, done safely.

"We share the road with many different road users, some more vulnerable than others."


:headbash: And only today, I had to drive at c-r-a-w-l speed behind a stupid cyclist who was totally oblivious that there was a car behind him. The reason he was oblivious was because he was wearing headphones while riding his little bike

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 22:26 
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CJG wrote:
:headbash: And only today, I had to drive at c-r-a-w-l speed behind a stupid cyclist who was totally oblivious that there was a car behind him. The reason he was oblivious was because he was wearing headphones while riding his little bike


Idiots in cars trying to drive too quickly and crashing cause you far more delays than any cyclist will ever cause.

Every day the common cause of major delays in the traffic news is car crashes.

Yet you don't appear to be getting angry about that, why is that?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 18:16 
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Every day the common cause of major delays in the traffic news is car crashes.


Yep, you see them every day, on every road you use.

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graball wrote:
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Every day the common cause of major delays in the traffic news is car crashes.


Yep, you see them every day, on every road you use.


If you've got nothing to add graball, I'd suggest you leave that post button alone!


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A reminder to all - please discuss issues without feeling the need to score cheap shots at one another - we are, after all, adults...


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CJG wrote:

"We share the road with many different road users, some more vulnerable than others."

:headbash: And only today, I had to drive at c-r-a-w-l speed behind a stupid cyclist who was totally oblivious that there was a car behind him. The reason he was oblivious was because he was wearing headphones while riding his little bike


I'm not really sure the article and the comment are related in any way ?.... apart from an opening to vent on other road users.

If you couldn't overtake this guy on a bike then presumeably it wasn't going to be safe to do so whether he was wearing headphones or suspenders and a feather boa and singing "she'll be coming round the mountain"?

It's not unusual to see people driving cars with headphones in these days, maybe the same profile of person that would ride with them, but then again how different is that to driving with windows up and the radio on?

It's very easy to critique & find fault in other people's driving / riding especially if you've been inconvenienced by having to allow for their presence but at the end of the day "We share the road with many different road users, some more vulnerable than others.".


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:gatso2: The Highway Code seems to be somewhat ambiguous about these things.

Rule 148

Safe driving and riding needs concentration. Avoid distractions when driving or riding such as
loud music (this may mask other sounds)
trying to read maps
inserting a cassette or CD or tuning a radio
arguing with your passengers or other road users
eating and drinking
smoking

That's general advice. So there's no specific law against those things.

Add to that, there are no laws to prevent a profoundly deaf person from riding a bike or driving a car.

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So..... was the problem that you had to share the road with them and have your progress impeded (I presume temporarily) ?
or that they had headphones in ?


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:gatso2: Rule 148

Safe driving and riding needs concentration.

Road safety is everyone's responsibility - cyclists an motorists alike When I'm out driving, there's one kind of cyclist who I am most wary of and that's the one who cycles on the pavement and then suddenly decides to cycle on the road. I always slow down whenever I encounter one of these cyclists. When they suddenly decide to cycle on the road, there's one thing they don't do and that's look behind them.

What I'm saying is, that I take care to show consideration to cyclists but I don't get anything back from them. A lot of them seem to have an attitude of, "I'm a cyclist and everyone else can get stuffed!

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