SafeSpeedv2 wrote:
Understanding psychology, appropriate education approaches, suitable for all 'types of people', and rejoining the lost community spirit will help to re-align society, and help to remind that courtesy and understanding on the roads is of extreme importance.
I keep hoping we kindle courtesy etc by a constant nagging of C O A (A) S T
Yep - I know plenty of those posting to various enthusiast road user fora (both motoring and cyclhng
) are pretty much "au fait/at ease/second nature/engage COAST on "human motor instinct"
(another Wildy remark in private person-person chat - but the woman comes out with a phrase which cuts to the chase in her own odd to eccentric way I think she goes too intensely obtuse at times though ) safespeedv2 wrote:
I thought Catholics like most religions believed in forgiveness and that all can be saved ?
Errr.. this family's Catholic. Given the fact we've all "gone forth and been fruitful in each member's little families"
But read you history Claire
I somehow think the way Catholics murdered Protestants/Anglicans in the past - plus the Vatican's role in WW2 and attitude towards contraception (especially in Catholic African provinces) hardly makes it an "gentle minded religion" - but this is the same extremity of all blinkered zealots to a faith or even a cause.
With cycling and green issues - I think there is a sort of "crusade of the devout to Green" at times.
Hey - I do not waste one penny nor one morsel of food in this household. Whatever me and my wife (Alice) purchase for our home/own personal uses - we use until it "dies of exhaustion/worn out"! We support the WOW factor . War On Waste
But whilst we ride our bicycles and use our cars thoughtfully/have what we hope to be a very considerate and gentle personal lifestyle - we do not think anyone to be a complete and utter saint. Cars have a cost to the plante.
Bicycles and manufacture/delivery to shops/gadgets/clothing/cycling fads and fashions also have "CARBON IMPACT of a similar level to a car on aggregate when you weigh it all up" and this is one thing which really "gets up my nostrils in a supremely acrid whiffy stink of hypocrisy on the part of the "spindrift sock puppet types"
By all means - wax lyrical about the health aspects/fun/enjoyment/exhilaration after the exercise and sense of personal feel good achievement - but do not deceive anyone on "greener than theee!" matters because it just don't work out that way
It convinces no one really
Want more to take up cycling? Play to what they will experience and get personal pleasure in.
Folk will switch off to a "green pressure" - given "green tax/wheely bin fines and a shed load of other stuff". It's just a thought to our lurkers - and I think they are now seeing us as more friend than enemy to be fair from information fed to me
and personal messages from registered posters who do not post much to safespeed but pm ME!!!.
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I think that it is only, the cost and time that it would take, to actually help all road users into becoming a reasonable OK driver and member of society. So many programs on TV (etc) show how all things (seem) possible if the right approach and time is provided to each person.
Car thieves have been given the ability to make their own cars and then they start to understand how the pride, respect and responsibility can be felt as they take responsibility for something they have done and show that they can do.
Are many of our current problems stemmed from a society that has forgotten how to care?
Yes CLAIRE .. we have "progressed as a species to little s:censored:t - selfish. . arrogant.... think everyone else owes them a living . feels "rejected if someone happens to disagree with them" -
.. when there is no need. No one felt/feels such in my "baby boom generations" which I think includes the 45-=60 year olds of 2009 - the ones who "set the scene in the 60s/early 70s." as regards PROTEST
against the "ESTABLISHMENT". Our generation set the style and still set the style.
Our generation grew up with a genteel ethic and expanded the boundaries of that gentility. Its true "protesting 60-70s hippies" still remain considerate to others all the same. The "politically correct zombies" on the other hand .. would appear to undermine that laudable ethic of my generation' and ten year ahead of me generation's peers". I'd like to remind folk that the law is not "Stepford" nor the "Body snatchers'" conspiracy film of the 50s!
- but a principle which adapts to an ever changing society and its fair common sensed based needs,
SOME try to change the law adversely. It's up to Joe Public at large to shout out his protest song.. and vote to his conscience and trust in his chosen candidate at any election