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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 20:22 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... LISTS.html

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Now it's speed bumps for cyclists . . . to stop them rampaging down a road
By Jaya Narain
Last updated at 2:03 AM on 25th September 2009

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It is generally agreed that speed bumps are an effective way of slowing down speeding motorists and improving road safety.
But now one council has introduced the bumps in a bid to stop speeding cyclists rampaging down one road.
In the exclusive area of Canonbury, in London's Islingston, they have laid 14 bumps on the no-car backstreet after a catalogue of complaints about cyclists careering down the road.
Bumpy ride: A cyclist attempts to take on Islington's Douglas Road South, which has anti-cyclist speed humps
The move comes after Government advisers claimed motorists should be made legally responsible for all accidents involving cyclists, even if they are not at fault.
Cycling England, an agency funded by the Transport Department, wants the civil law to be changed so drivers or their insurers would automatically be liable for compensation claims.
The proposal has infuriated drivers, many of whom are angered by the antics of 'Lycra louts' - cyclists who sail through red lights, go the wrong way up one-way streets and intimidate pedestrians on pavements and zebra crossings.
The radical step to introduce traffic calming measures to combat dangerous cyclists in Islington in London has been applauded by pedestrians and residents but condemned by angry cyclists.
The long and bumpy road: The route in Islington, North London, where 14 speed bumps have been put in to slow down cyclists
But residents say the move on the pedestrian-only backstreet graphically highlights the dangers of speeding cyclists.
Stacey Roswell, 32, said: 'I live here and kids are always playing out the back but there are a lot of cyclists coming down here really fast.'
The full-time mum-of-three added: 'It's not a bike path but they think it is. They're just a nuisance, they're not very considerate.
'I've got three kids myself, one with special needs. If he came out of the house onto here it's dangerous.'
The yellow and black plastic speed bumps were installed over the last fortnight after dozens of complaints by fed-up residents to Homes for Islington (HFL), the firm that runs the borough's housing estates.

''It's not a bike path but they think it is. They're
just a nuisance, they're
not very considerate'

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Miss Roswell said: 'Something has to be done but they're an eyesore and some of them don't even go right to the edge so you can cycle round them anyway.'
The crackdown has been imposed on reckless pushbikers in Canonbury, north London on a vehicle-free backstreet.
Cyclists use the 250-metre narrow road as a cut-through to avoid the traffic-congested main highway.
Phill Millership, 31, an architect from Stoke Newington, regularly cycles down the road on his way to work in Finsbury said the move was 'ill-conceived.'
He said: 'It may be an economical solution but it's certainly not a practical or aesthetic one - for bike users or residents.
"It's ill-conceived. People have got prams and all sorts to get down here. To wake up and see that every day, it's a bit garish.'
Another cyclist said the bumps were just displacing the cycle traffic as bikers were just choosing other roads.
But one pensioner said: 'They don't look very nice but they'll fade in time. If it stops the cyclists then that's the main thing - they come hurtling down here.
A HFL spokesman said the local tenants' and residents' association had decided to install the ramps.
He said: 'HFI is undertaking a survey of residents. If residents are now unhappy with the current arrangements, money spent will have been wasted and new work will have to be funded again - with no guarantee that there is funding available.'
Moves to make motorists responsible for all accident involving cyclsits has been modelled on regulations in the Netherlands, Denmark, and Germany, which are heavily skewed in favour of cyclists.
Even in cases where a crash results from illegal or dangerous manoeuvres by the cyclist, the motorist is usually blamed.
Cyclists' groups say the reforms would encourage people to get out of their cars and make more journeys by bicycle or on foot.


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Chck out the Times as well. And the scathing comments :lol:


Look .. it's inevitable. More take to pedal power . fact of legislation beckons :popcorn:


It's not being a killjoy nor "cyclist hating" :roll: But we all should know the score ahead of us.

I say we can avoid all such by just applying normal decent common sense values and proving we can do without "Nanny" :wink:


But discuss.. keep it clean and suggest practical solutions which may work here. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 09:25 
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What really annoys me about speed humps, is that they were sold to us as a means to stop people (or discourage) from EXCEEDING the speed limit. Unfortunately most of the ones by me are uncomfortable to cross at anything over 15-20MPH and some even at 10MPH (all in 30MPH imits). There is nothing more annoying than driving up a 30MPH road (often deserted of pedestrians) and having to slow to 15MPH every 20 Yards or so. I'm all for keeping to the limit when neccessary but dropping to 15MPH every few yards is taking the P@@@

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These days so many bikes have suspension....

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Cyclists' groups say the reforms would encourage people to get out of their cars and make more journeys by bicycle or on foot.



Haha. Good luck getting me out of my car. When will these idiots learn, I use my car because I WANT to, try dragging me out and see what happens...

And on the subject of speed humps, whenever I am on my bike, I cannot see one occasion where I have not sped up since I use them as ramps. They are also good to get a wheelie going.

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Those are the sort of humps which might easily trip up a pensioner!
If they do, I hope they sue! :lol:

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The interesting thing about these reports is no one has printed what the MP for islington (iirc) said about them.

Essentially it boiled down to cyclists are peds on 2 wheels and it is the tin boxes that should be targeted as they are the only ones killing peds. It was an interview on LBC or BBC Radio London and repeated many times on the news.


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Funny thing is that when these humps came out -I was a cyclist ,out of necessity rather than choice -but they didn't cause me any problems -
so what is the grief about the new set of humps??

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Ernest Marsh wrote:
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Those are the sort of humps which might easily trip up a pensioner!
If they do, I hope they sue! :lol:



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These days so many bikes have suspension....


My Mountain bike would laugh at those!

I'd go over them fast just for fun! :twisted:

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We police are trained to ride up and down steps.. :popcorn: My wife has no complaints :D

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