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PeterE
PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 09:04 
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Daily Mash

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Britain trapped in downward spiral of bicycle addiction

BRITAIN is in the grip of a deadly addiction to bicycles, according to new research.

As bike-pusher Halfords reported record sales, experts said the liberalisation of cycling laws had created a generation who may as well be French.

Professor Henry Brubaker, of the Institute for Studies, said: “There are now hundreds of thousands of people in this country who are of no use to anyone except Halfords.

“You would not want them in your place of business and the idea of having one in your home turns the stomach.

“They come in dripping with sweat and self satisfaction and then steal money from your secret jar so they can buy disgusting shorts.

“I feel particularly sorry for parents who did their best, only for their child to come home one day full of horrible, boring environmentalism.”

Brubaker said that anyone who campaigned for cycle lanes to be legalised should have their houses confiscated and accused the BBC of glamourising bicycles.

He added: “If you watch the One Show it seems every other person is being handed an Olympic gold medal just because they can go a bike faster than a German.”

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:03 
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I enjoyed this from him too:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 1203225043

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TBH- I have found Halfrauds cycle folks very knowledgeable and helpful. My little motor is pov spec,pre boot release except from drivers side. I got hold of a security radio device and a solenoid. Then what I needed was Bowden cable bits to let the solenoid pull the catch. Tried one of the bike shops localy- "not bike related -can't help".But the cycle blokes in Halfrauds did everything to help.

Now on bikers. Folk on here might se me as a bike hater. I'm not, I hate sefishness ,on foot/ on two wheels /by car owners and everything else.(Bus drivers are allowed - I'm one of the generatrion that think ,on a test ,they got marked down for not cutting other folks up enough).Sorry, Oscar- from your posts ,I'd see you as "TOO NICE" to have passed a PSV test :D .

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The Times, who have a pro-cycling campaign going on, have been saying how dangerous roads are for cyclists and that "something must be done". IMO it is perverse for a respected newspaper to try to encourage an activity that they acknowledge to be very dangerous. I can't think of another example.

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malcolmw wrote:
The Times, who have a pro-cycling campaign going on, have been saying how dangerous roads are for cyclists and that "something must be done". IMO it is perverse for a respected newspaper to try to encourage an activity that they acknowledge to be very dangerous. I can't think of another example.


Cycling isn't dangerous, neither are roads, being struck by a car or lorry is though...
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weepej wrote:
Cycling isn't dangerous, neither are roads, being struck by a car or lorry is though...

Walking on the railway track isn't dangerous, nor are trains, but being struck by a train is...

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PeterE wrote:
weepej wrote:
Cycling isn't dangerous, neither are roads, being struck by a car or lorry is though...

Walking on the railway track isn't dangerous, nor are trains, but being struck by a train is...


It's illegal to trespass on the railway, an environment tailored to carrying very heavy high speed vehicles that take an age to stop.

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/981.a ... IsTrespass

You saying the public highway should be subject to the same type of laws?
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Electricity isn't dangerous but too much of it in one go is...;-)

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You're missing the obvious dangers of water - something we could not normally do without.

You can drink too much of it, it can conduct electricity to parts of the body it shouldn't reach, and of course you can drown in it.
It can be a breeding ground for bacteria and diseases, and if frozen you can slip and hurt yourself, or it can burst metal pipes!

If you dipped people in head first until they drowned, a single bucket of water could kill several people - and yet there are NO health and safety warnings on taps or buckets!

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I could understand campaigns to encourage use of trains and buses and to limit the use of motorcycles as all these would encourage transition to accepted less hazardous forms of transport.

In isolation, cycling is of only minimal inherent danger but, unfortunately, cycling is done on the road and the interaction with other road users is a problem.

Above it is said that "being struck by a car or lorry" is dangerous. Therefore all road users must be cognisant of the risks involved and minimise them by making appropriate allowance for others by concentration, observation and awareness. For example, motorists should look before opening their doors while cyclists should not filter up the inside of trucks.

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weepej wrote:

It's illegal to trespass on the railway, an environment tailored to carrying very heavy high speed vehicles that take an age to stop.

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/981.a ... IsTrespass

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UNLESS YOU'VE TRAINED TO GO OUT THERE.
And trains can stop in less than the Rail book distance. The Overhead lines at 25Kv are "SAID" safe at NINE foot away - But ,I worked with a bloke that was trained to get corpses off lines a lot closer than that ( and after contact with 25Kv- it's fried inside out- he assures me,and he tells me HE has seen photos)


Wake up mate- You are a Biker . Me- I'm a bloke (now retired) with COSS( try a Google on COSS) on any line in the UK. SAFETY - take a group of MATES out on one of the most dangerous places in UK today , and start lecturing me on SAfety . Bikes - cars can only do 70 - Branstons stiuff can /does do 125+.( AND +AND I never had any SAFETY referals).

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Ernest, you are dead right about water (dead right get it?), maybe we should restrict the speed of it? Slow the flow from taps, the flow in streams and rivers and the tides need speed bumps too....after all... (all together now)...SPEED KILLS!

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malcolmw wrote:
but, unfortunately, cycling is done on the road and the interaction with other road users is a problem.


You do of course mean other road user's interaction with cyclists is a problem; vehicle drivers are hugely disproportionally at fault in motorised vehicle/cyclist collisions, despite Boris Johnson trying to assert otherwise recently for some bizzare reason.

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Figures in a 2009 report from the independent Transport Research Laboratory showed that – when a cyclist over the age of 25 sustained serious injuries – the motorist was entirely at fault between 64 and 70 per cent of the time, with the cyclist at fault in 23 to 27 per cent of incidents.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 86179.html


(Johnson recently retracted his claim)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/b ... tics-wrong
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botach wrote:
UNLESS YOU'VE TRAINED TO GO OUT THERE.


No, if you walked on railway land without permission you're trespassing regardless as to whether you've been trained or not right?
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weepej wrote:
malcolmw wrote:
but, unfortunately, cycling is done on the road and the interaction with other road users is a problem.


You do of course mean other road user's interaction with cyclists is a problem...

Please do not make assumptions about what I mean. What I wrote is correct. Interaction is defined as a mutual or reciprocal action or influence.

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weepej wrote:
botach wrote:
UNLESS YOU'VE TRAINED TO GO OUT THERE.


No, if you walked on railway land without permission you're trespassing regardless as to whether you've been trained or not right?


ASS U ME :shock:

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