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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 20:54 
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And don't get me started on u-turns.

You DO ? :roll:

And there were a lot of folks thinking the weepy is not for turning ( especially when it comes to answers ). :D :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 21:41 
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What happened to the "being able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear" then?



isn't that one of weepy's cast in stone , ten commandments..."though shalt not come round a blind corner without expecting to see someone doing a three point turn"

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 21:44 
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FIL was stationery at time of impact,yet he got done for careless.


Weepy, maybe he didn't bother fighting it but I can't imagine anyone who is stationary on a long straight road, doing a three point turn or not, being blamed for someone running into them, unless it is a no stopping zone or similar, and not getting off in court.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 21:47 
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I think they should be, but pretty much, in the case of the three point turn and reversing around a corner, that should be the last time they should ever be done, except in emergencies


What sort of emergency can you envisage someone needing to reverse around a corner?

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Surely these manoeuvres also serve to demonstrate that you can exercise precise low-speed control of the car. And I'm sure weepej follows best practice by always reversing into supermarket car park spaces ;)

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Surely these manoeuvres also serve to demonstrate that you can exercise precise low-speed control of the car. And I'm sure weepej follows best practice by always reversing into supermarket car park spaces ;)


or at least if he drives in forward, does he reverse out? maybe he waits for the car in front to go before driving out forward?

I would be more concerned about reversing in a supermarket carpark than the open road to be honest...much more going on and far more likely to hit something/someone or have someone hit you.

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Surely these manoeuvres also serve to demonstrate that you can exercise precise low-speed control of the car.


Yes, I've said above, they should be a part of the test, but after it, the examiner should turn to your and say "right, you know I asked you to do a three point turn and reverse around a corner? NEVER do those again".


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And I'm sure weepej follows best practice by always reversing into supermarket car park spaces ;)


That would be a silly thing to do right? Unless you've got a rear engined car with the boot in the front?


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Surely these manoeuvres also serve to demonstrate that you can exercise precise low-speed control of the car.


Yes, I've said above, they should be a part of the test, but after it, the examiner should turn to your and say "right, you know I asked you to do a three point turn and reverse around a corner? NEVER do those again".


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And I'm sure weepej follows best practice by always reversing into supermarket car park spaces ;)


That would be a silly thing to do right? Unless you've got a rear engined car with the boot in the front?




I have to ask the same question to both these stupid statements...


WHY?????

Can you elaborate please or am I missing something after many years of both reversing round corners and owning a car with the engine behind and boot in front.

:doh: :doh: :doh:

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Can you elaborate please or am I missing something after many years of both reversing round corners and owning a car with the engine behind and boot in front.

:doh: :doh: :doh:


I drive forward into parking spaces at the supermarket because my boot is at the back of the car and it makes it easier to load.

I'm not saying people should never reverse around a a corner or do a three point turn on the public highway, it's just that they are manoeuvres I'd always try to avoid if at all possible.

I DO think they should be part of the test though.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 19:04 
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I'm not saying people should never reverse around a a corner or do a three point ........



[quote they should be a part of the test, but after it, the examiner should turn to your and say "right, you know I asked you to do a three point turn and reverse around a corner? NEVER do those again".][/quote]

ooops that must be the quickest weepy backtrack in history....can anyone find a quicker one?

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graball wrote:
ooops that must be the quickest weepy backtrack in history....can anyone find a quicker one?


I never suggested they shouldn't be part of the test. I think they should be an integral part of it.


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graball wrote:
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I'm not saying people should never reverse around a a corner or do a three point ........



[quote they should be a part of the test, but after it, the examiner should turn to your and say "right, you know I asked you to do a three point turn and reverse around a corner? NEVER do those again".]


ooops that must be the quickest weepy backtrack in history....can anyone find a quicker one?[/quote]

OR could it be a U TURN :D

As for the emergency stop - often mentioned that having to perform an emergency stop is an admission of poor/inattentive driving.

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