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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 15:11 
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Well... we have had the good practice sitting and discussed on here since Paul created the sub-area :lol:

Sure - part of it was to dispel myths about primary position in particular - and to pint out there is a reason. Most cyclists are not "out to upset drivers" - and most drivers are careful - they do not want prangs, repairs - and most normally minded people genuinely strive not to hurt others - and are geneiuinely extremely upset and horrified whenever any incident occurs.


Also - a ready reference and exchange of tips - always useful.

Last autumn - I mentioned the CTC and its initiative to teach proficiency to adults - on the basis that most returners have not ridden since childhood - and riding a bike to commute or shop or pleasure... - ttraffic conditions have been changing as a constant. :wink:


If you have the time - and this could be a good business enterprise as well :wink: "Cycling Schools" :lol: 8-) - CTC does offer free training and a bursary to train as a "Cycling Instructor"

If you wish to learn how to ride a bike properly and safely - CTC has details of courses and trainer providers set up to date... London, Manchester, Britstol , Nottingham, Birmingham... Darlington (part of its "Beacon - Lighting the Way for Cyclsts" programme :lol: 8-) )

(C+ seemed to focus on course providers in the South West and Oxford...

So - what are we doing?

Well - Cycling Proficiencyh is being replaced with a "National Standard"


:lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: You know - this could be the start of compulsrry tests to meet this National Standard 8-) 8-) 8-)

Anyway - Standard has three levels

1. Beginners (the "Get started" threads on this site)

2. Commuter cyclist (the "On the road - position" threads)

3. Advanced Cyclist.
(our discussions on roundabouts from hell and so on :wink: )

In htis month's issue - intrepid novice reporter takes to the local course as offered in Bristol and takes us through with photos of her on the course.

Photos are very valuable - they show up very precisely the position whihc we should be adopting when riding to keep it safe.

The lady reporter - Eleanor Parsons - describes how her trainer made her check over her bike, do some warm up stretches (always a good idea) before setting off for a ride around the centre's car park.

Why we do this? (Er - most training courses - including police ones do this)... we are tightening up position, pracitsing the life saver glance backs, learning absolute control of our bikes - and getting into the habit of always adopting the "set off postion" - making sure your left leg is steady on the ground - right foot at "nine o clock" so that your set off is firm, balanced and hass a decisive OOOOOOOOOOOOOOMPH! :wink:

There is another reason - safety led... DISCUSS! :wink:

Phase two - is where the adult learneer relearns the rules of the road from the cyclists' point of view :wink: - the real reasons why we use a primary to turn left and right. It's where you learn the cyclsit version of MSM :wink: and giving some tips as to judging cars.


I did say on the past - never move fully into a gap - move over and stop - but make sure you can be seen

All in all - this - plus the commuting pull out - one to buy and keep for reference. :wink:

PS - really lovely article on cyling in Iceland..Tayside and Wales plus .. hip rotations - hang on.. :shock: Wildy :neko: did this one in here
Yoga post :P





:lol: :lol: Ever get the impression someone lurks and :wink: likes us really :wink:

But :bow: :clap: - excellent mag this month - and if you are stuck for rides - they have some suggestions with a Bike Events 2006 supplement.

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Obviously the article on learning to ride a bike isn't aimed at subscribers like me, who are more interested in the test of race tyres and bikes like the new Trek Pilot 5.2, but at people who might pick up the mag on the off chance (e.g. in a doctor's waiting room).

One of the big problems in getting people to take up or restart cycling is overcoming the perceived (and to some extent justified) fear of taking to the roads on such a vulnerable means of transport in a situation where so many impatient, inattentive and sometimes downright aggressive road users seem to have free rein.

The article on page 64 tells you where to acquire the skills that you need. QED.


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A Cyclist wrote:
One of the big problems in getting people to take up or restart cycling is overcoming the perceived (and to some extent justified) fear of taking to the roads on such a vulnerable means of transport in a situation where so many impatient, inattentive and sometimes downright aggressive road users seem to have free rein.


Do you think that that perception is promoted (albeit accidentally) by government policy? I do...

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A Cyclist wrote:
Obviously the article on learning to ride a bike isn't aimed at subscribers like me, who are more interested in the test of race tyres and bikes like the new Trek Pilot 5.2, but at people who might pick up the mag on the off chance (e.g. in a doctor's waiting room).


Well... :scratchchin: that's no bad thing. Good move.. we need to get people to at least see that cycling is not the "danger they perceive it to be - so long as they follow a few ground rules - just as they do when they drive. :wink:

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One of the big problems in getting people to take up or restart cycling is overcoming the perceived (and to some extent justified) fear of taking to the roads on such a vulnerable means of transport in a situation where so many impatient, inattentive and sometimes downright aggressive road users seem to have free rein.

The article on page 64 tells you where to acquire the skills that you need. QED.


Sure it does .. why I recommend as a "must read" for all. :wink:

Magazine is a darned good one overall - and yes - I buy on regular basis and some of the Swiss subscribe and have it delivered each month! :lol:

But the roads... nonsensical cycle lanes apart... :wink: - relatively safe dspite the hype. Durham does not have speeders running riot. We do not have too many furious pedal pushers either..

I agree London. Manchester, Nottingham, Middlesborough, Liverpool, Cardiff, Swansea, Leeds...etc will have their own "city" problems.. but there we have a mix don't we? Very dangerous drivers and very dangerous cyclists at one extreme (mostly the ones we try to lock up for other reasons besides their road use :wink: ) - and the plain daft, but innocent at the other extreme... with some right numpties in the middle. :roll:

Unfortunately - due to "redeployed staff, enforcement by "autocue" and a general dumbing down by "pee cee dumber than dumb " :wink: - coupled with a Nanny pretending this is all a "spoonful of sugar" :wink: - we have now created a mean society crippled from the neck down with fear... of doing anything remotely "energetic and competiive a- and htis would appear to include voting for any political party as well :wink: - soince most "stayed at home as it was far too dangerous to visit the polling station" :wink:

Yep - not PC Pee Cee Toe the Line .. I speak my mind.

After all - am just the same as every one else - a citizen (who wears a uniform and who polices his fellows by their consent - as they do pay him quite well for this privilege :wink: ) with a right to vote and thus a right to have an opinion :wink: Which of the village idiots hoping to gain his seat down in the hell hole otherwise known as London actually receives my vote is something my conscience grapples with for a full 4- 5 years :roll:

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SafeSpeed wrote:
A Cyclist wrote:
One of the big problems in getting people to take up or restart cycling is overcoming the perceived (and to some extent justified) fear of taking to the roads on such a vulnerable means of transport in a situation where so many impatient, inattentive and sometimes downright aggressive road users seem to have free rein.


Do you think that that perception is promoted (albeit accidentally) by government policy? I do...


I think it is promoted more by drivers (I really mean non-cyclitsts here) and the non-specialist media. If I had a pound for every time a non-cyclist told me cycling was safe, I'd be a poor man.


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