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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 08:40 
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freddieflintoff2005 wrote:
My tuppence worth:

Just to say I fully understand the frustration of the situation described and how tempting it is to follow the car in front overtaking through, despite the possible dangers. I have experienced a very similar situation myself on an A-road where I was 3rd in a line of traffic behind a lorry (1st and going 45 ish), and a car (2nd). I went to overtake the car and lorry on a decent straight when the car pulled out as described in the OP. Judging there to be enough space for the overtake I followed behind, with the car going frustratingly slowly. This is where the unexpected problem arose:

Traffic was now approaching from the opposite direction, albeit a fair distance away. However, the car in front pulled in front of the lorry and then proceeded to slow to the lorry's pace without leaving enough gap to fit into. This left me with an additional car length to overtake, or drop back a whole lorry length - involving some hard braking and the hope that there was still the space we had both vacated. Luckily, I made a quick decision gunned it to overtake the car as well. Thankfully he didn't begin racing me and I managed to make it with relatively little panic. It was something I'd never thought of before when planning an overtake, but I do now! Could have been nasty.


Yup - not a nice place to be. Thus the need to not only be sure you have enough space to get past but also to have identified the space you're going to pull back into (I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere on SafeSpeed).


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A similar thing happened to me on a lane-merge a couple of days ago but I was the car behind the lorry. I was in the left lane with 2 lorries in front of me, and there were another 2 cars behind me. Anybody who knows the A5 between Hinckley and Tamworth knows that the first time it goes into two lanes, you need a lambo to overtake before it goes back to one (a misleading road lay-out in my opinion). Worst of it is, the lane merge is over a hill so unless you know it, you won't realise until it's right there. I'm waiting patiently behind this lorry knowing that any second 2 lanes will go into one and there's no time for me to go past, but there's two cars behind me who want to overtake both me and the lorries. The first one manages to get there and cuts in between the first and second lorry, but the second one who was following him had no chance before the lanes merged. Having made the same mistake myself not so long ago, I slowed down and let the second car in.

On the exact same lane-merge I've seen all sorts, including cars accelerating extremely, extremely fast to get past and then getting flashed by the camera which appears just after the lane merge, and also people refusing to let the guy back in so he has to drive about an inch away from the central reservation. Surprising there's not more bleedin' accidents there!

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