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Indeed, Wildcat. I agree.

Though I can think of no other reason that he would do this, except for the fact there was a speed camera to take a snapshot of him.

I wonder if this has happened before? And that it just happened that the person going through the speed camera images decided to report him for what he did?

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Maybe he was just plain frustrated over the police beef about their pay?

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I agree with JK. Taking ones hands off the wheel does not itself consitute loss of control

WildCat, just because folk are being done for eating butty etc whilst driving does not in any way mean that this is dangerous per se. Lets not confuse 'safety' and 'political correctness'

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I am a little surprised that no one has commented on the fact that neither of them is wearing a seat belt.

And lets not misuse the term 'political correctness' because we know it gets people going

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Not loss of control but you could not describe it as being in control of the vehcle.

Blimey! I hadn't noticed!

Well spotted!

Gawping away from the road, hands off the wheel, no seatbelt.

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I believe there are some exemptions as regards safety belt legislation- HGV drivers, taxi drivers and police officers.

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I figure if they are going to need a quick exit to catch somebody who's stopped the car and done a runner.

TBH I'd put mine on whether it was the law or not.

I'd be interested in the position of the police on this seatbelt exemption (let's assume it does exist for the moment). They have just been prosecuted in the deMenezes case under H&S legislation. Could they be failing to look after the welfare of their officers if they condone not wearing belts just to save a few milliseconds?

This appears to be another example of the police being exempted from laws for quite poor reasons thus alienating them further from the public.

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Has nobody thought that this driver although hands were off the wheel at the time was actually "controlling" the car by using his "KNEES"

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Unless, Stormin', he was using something else to grip the steering wheel with, other than his knees?

That might explain why his female colleague was grinning so excitedly and was giving the thumbs up herself...

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Ere mate if I was driving and steering with my "tackle" my missus would be giving me more than the "Thumbs up" I can tell you

She would be "Over The Moon" so to speak and so would I bloodywell be as a "Golden Oldie"

Could she be asking is that your truncheon you are steering with or are you just pleased to have me as a passenger

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Guilty of stupidity if nothing else.

(In America, many who pretty much drive for a living - cops, firefighters, ambulance drivers, truckers, taxi drivers - are allowed to drive without a seat belt. That doesn't mean it's advised against. Having taken two Emergency Vehicle Operations Courses myself, I know that seat belt use is strongly encouraged. It keeps the driver in better control of the vehicle to better avoid incidents and collisions, and enables quicker recovery from minor collisions that may occur during an emergency response.)
Let's see.
He was genuinely on a 999 call.
Both hands were 'trusting inertia'; he - at least partially - relinquished control of the vehicle (maybe he was using his knees? We don't know) while unbuckled.

I take the placement of the scamera as prima facie evidence that the road conditions in that area were probably safe at the moment, and that the officer 'confirmed' the road conditions to be safe, and was then reminded of the camera, either by seeing it, or by his partner. (Most scameras are placed where it's usually safe to exceed the posted speed 'limit' - otherwise costs would exceed profits) ...

He then decided to remove his hands, his eyes, and his mind, from both the task of driving above the posted 'limit', and from police business ... to amuse himself, his partner, and any fellow officers who would see this photo.

Does the Heisenberg Effect create jack@$$es, or does it merely weed them out?

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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2) Nothing gets hit, except to protect others; see Rule#1
3) The Laws of Physics are invincible and immutable - so-called 'laws' of men are not
4) You are always immediately and ultimately responsible for your safety first, then proximately responsible for everyone's
Do not let other road users' mistakes become yours, nor yours become others
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Actually he was practicing a piece of performance art for the Turner prize.

By demonstrating the juxtaposition of the transient police car between the legal and illegal interface of the two laws of the crowd and the judiciary. Also the freedom of expression without the confines of the harness, yet within the confines of the shell. The artist captures his jubilation and stupidity simultaneously in the immediate moment, tessellating the images of the constabulary as guardian and protagonist of the law.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Gets my vote!!
I'm not an art lover but I know what I like!

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At a guess I'd say that relations between the relevant safety camera partnership and the police is going to get dramatically bad.....maybe they'll find themselves zapped at 31 in a 30 limit....wouldn't that be fun !

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Well sorry, yes. If a vehicle does not keep straight with hands off the wheel it indicates a tracking problem with the vehicle steering.

I'm sure the driver would still be aware of any drift and corrected immediately, for goodness sake he is supposed to a trained driver, not having his first driving lesson.

This is certainly all about Political Correctness and not much more.