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An officer of the law gets caught exceeding the limit and tries to lie his way out of it.

Sad for a lot of reasons.

He was recorded at almost 20mph over the limit but lied that he was responding to an emergency call to try and cover the incident.
Apparently he had a 'distinguished' career that may now be over because of the way he acted after committing the offence.

Any thoughts?
Story here

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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

I think its tragic that common sense has broken down so far that this exemplary officer feels he has to try to lie his way out of an essentially nothing charge.

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

I think that this is going to be another 'bad press day' for the police, if he is prosecuted under a lesser charge it will raise howls of 'One rule for them etc' and if he gets the book thrown at him it will raise howls of 'he's being made a scapegoat'.

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

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Forgive me but this "exemplery officer" stuff in the press report

Loads of people do unusual work. I was working at the dome the day it was raided... should I claim that was a reason I committed a crime or expect leaniancy. I repaired thousands of phone lines after the October '87 hurricaine. I have done unpaid work for hunderds of people,

Is that my job?

I am stressed out in a war with the planning officers... shall I claim that?
what about the hundreds of street defects I have got rectified over the years...

I must remember the moment of madness line... that seams to crop up every time a copper/chief constable or coppers son goes to court.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Typical f**king old bill, haven't got the bollocks to admit they fook up occasionally as we all do from time to time, and then try to weasel their way out of exactly the same thing they will be more than happy to nick you for.

Don't do as I do, just do as I say.

Hypocritical, two faced, bullying w@nkers, the lot of them.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

If he's happy to lie to pervert the course of justice to save himself shouldn't it worry us if he'd also happily "stitch up" others?

Anyway if Plod want to be honest there's nothing to stop them releasing a statement that breaking a speed limit isn't quite as bad as they've been making out for all these years - until they do that well they can suffer their own rules like the rest of us.

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I have always been honest here If we are on legit police business - we have an "exemption" which warrants the emergency and all tax payers (including BiB who do pay income tax ) paid out a lot of cash to train us to deliver this service.

I do not at all subscribe to the view that this training gives "carte blanche" ot "please ourslelves and manipulate the rules here!" If we are on a legit shout - we have to priduce the backing. This also has a cost to the taxpayer as the person checking has to be paid his or her wage

I do not at all support the guy who basically fibbed and was lucky enough to dupe the mags into believing he "aborted a shout" whilst on way to pick up his Beijing or Peking Duck with the fried rice, spring rolls and dips

Nor would I condone PC Milton "testing his car" without first obtaining clearance to do so

Our Inspector - as I posted at the time - and NOT at all because he was a good pal and a much respected colleague - he was on police businesss - checking a route and saw a "potential". He did make a serious error in that he did not clear it with us at base nor with the "host testing site before he did so He paid a very hefty price . Fortunately for this patch . he was due to retire anyway - and we already had his successor in line there I only wish his retirement had not been so "traumatic"

I have always said we are subect to the same rules as anyone else unless we can prove legit profession cause to "flout the rules"

I am of the original Hendon trained. I was just 23 years old when accepted to the course. I had been at Uni and had a gap year adventure when I joined up as a "graduate fast tracker " It was always drummed into me that I was not "above the law and was supposed to abide unless on professional licence to do otherwise" and that any other course of action would not only bring me into disrepute . but my employers . Her Majesty;s POLICE force

I have never fogotten the solemn oath I took to ensure folk in this country are ensured protection and fair justice - to protect and serve as best I can ever.. I was aged 22 years at the time after the gap year I had considered accountancy. // teaching Maths.. banking... but I guess I was genetically programmed

But what I swore allegiance to at a very young age still stands. I think I will never change as I will always be in the side of fairness and pure professionalism. I am not one for "letter of law" but more for "what the law seeks to remedy and put right" - which means we should and must not lay charges without good cause to do so

I cannot say fairer than this.

And I do despair of officers who basically "try it on" as it does undermine trust irreparably

For record - we are very hard on any officer who brings us into disrepute. It was why our Inspector chose to resign and take his punishment as a MOP because he failed to advise of his "test" at the time

So NO. I completely agree that this idiot officer faces the music .. like a man.. like one expects any other person who blats as opposed to blipping by a fraction In the latter .. we do use - cough - discretion and perhaps a very polite and helpful chat

I cannot say fairer here. I do not condone the officer here to be blunt

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

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FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

In Gear written like an honest man. It is a pity there are so few of your kind in positions which exercise authority over others

The other issue is that this officer may be required to give evidence in court.
Imagine the defence solicitor standing up and asking "Are'nt you the officer who lied to try and get off a speeding charge?"
That's his credibility blown out the water!
Sorry, but it's P45 time and a job guarding Morrisons at night.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

In Gear! - A man I love and respect.

If I had three wishes, one would be that you could be the highest rank there is in this unfair land. (Seriously)

(I would also hope you would sack the likes of Blunderstrom, but I don't mean to put you on the spot )

I was reminded today on a motorcycle run, for St Georges day, just how wonderful it is when the police work together with the public

I wish I'd got the one officer's name so I could give credit to him here. But there again - I probably, legally, couldn't anyway.

We all had a good day and my sincere heartfelt thanks go to all the officers who helped today, and also on my first meet last year.

re http://www.1066-mcc.co.uk

(Why do a$$holes always seem to get to the top?)

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Big Tone,

probably because those in whatever industry who know their stuff chose to stay where they can make a real difference rather than climb on board the route of 'what's in it for me?'

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

If the officer had been working for West Mercia police, he'd have got away with it.

I fall under their patch so I'm saying nothing



I'm afraid you're right

On our run yesterday many went over the speed limit where safe, including the police, and over red lights - again under the watchful eye of the police. Hundreds of us all traveling together in perfect safety. How can that be trolls?

Everyone had a good time. Old and young alike all coming out of their homes to wave and cheer us on.

I think the vast majority of police, who are real people just like us lest we forget, are actually very understanding of the whole speed kills nonsense but it is incumbent on them to enforce it. (Just my humble opinion)

Now where did I hear it's all about politics and money?

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.