Safe Speed Forums

Despite driving regularly, I must have missed this 'persecution'. As for being "so rabid about their car-hating", yeah right. That's why almost all of the time you can actually get away with breaking the speed limit, especially on motorways. That's why they've left the road network as it is or expanded it in places, even though the M25 is up to five lanes in each direction for some stretchs. The people that are dressing something up as 'road safety' are people on here talking about driving at a safe speed even though that just happens to be higher 99 times out of a hundred than the speed limit. And what's incredible, and the problem with many selfish right-wingers like you, is your total lack of understanding that not everyone agrees with you. Who knows how many MPs get letters from constituents complaining about the lack of enforcement of the speed limit. For all you know, the Government might be doing exactly what a lot of people DO want.

As another point, what specific changes have the Tories said they're going to make? Of course, by asking a question like that I'm assuming that I'm right in thinking that it's none, but hey, perhaps you know something that I don't.

By the way, Bombus, I'm still waiting for you to either substantiate the negative things you said to me before, or to withdraw and apologise for making up lies.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Is the speed limit generally enforced in these areas?

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

I think they do, but it's the motorist controlling the tonne of metal.



"a couple" equals two in my book. Do you actually think that people would be fined for doing that?



I completely disagree that drivers are suffering from "continuous persecution", or even intermittent persecution, but hey, well done for saying "in my humble opinion". In my opinion, because I believe the stats back it up, I think the likely result is a decrease in pedestrian injuries.



So you support the strict enforcement of the speed limit on the motorways because at higher speeds vehicles produce higher emissions due to the less efficient use of petrol?



The problem is that when a lot of drivers make their own choices as to what speed to drive, it happens to be faster and more dangerous.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Nothing, and generally pedestrians don't walk out into the road in front of a car, but occassionally people are absent-minded, or drunk, and neither is a reason they should be hit.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Hmm, interesting what you say. However, do you know that although Boris is basically going to scale back the congestion charge, he's not going to get rid of it? As for "the anti motorist game is up", what specific changes have the Tories said they will make in this area? Have they proposed reducing fuel duty? As for "the politics of envy", I can only speak for myself, but I can say that it's nothing to do with envy. If someone has got an expensive car, good for them. I would say that what is dressed up as safety is this site's basically anti-speed-limit stance.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Well, rules are so old school baby!

There does seem to be something about the type of driver that chooses to drive a BMW though. They seem to be much more aggressive than drivers of other cars in my opinion.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Ha! You know I could think exactly the same as you, Bombus.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.

Yes, you keep saying this sort of thing, but whenever you've called me a troll you've never justified it with any examples. You've just kept coming out with absolute bullshit.

Well I've had enough of people who act as if they own the road and that everything they do is right. You know I was driving along the motorway today, doing what I'm sure you would appreciate, pulling over to the left after I'd overtaken someone, and I'd just been overtaking a lorry and was getting a safe distance between me and him and was just about to pull over, when some impatient, self-righteous twat flashed me. Can you believe that, Bombus, I was just about to pull over to the left and I get flashed. Which, naturally, really annoyed me, and shortly after I can across a van that was constantly driving in the middle lane so I plonked myself behind him. For about 50 miles.

So as a general point, let me say this: you lot may be able to persuade people like me to do what you want with gentle persuasion, but if you're going to be aggressive, impatient morons on the road (this driver was a moron because I had just been overtaking someone so was perfectly in the right), then you lot are never going to get anywhere in my opinion. Remember THAT the next time you're about to flash someone.

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Before you moan about middle-lane hoggers, check that you yourself are obeying all the rules of the road.