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This is exactly the conclusion I have arrived at. Her mother decided she wanted to take a photo and it was a last minute decision to pull over and a case of indicate and go.

Having dismantled the rear end of an 807 I would be very surprised if there was any visible damage. The bumper consists of a very flexible plastic cover over a very substantial steel girder which wraps around the corners.



Both drivers caused this accident. One made a dangerous overtake, the other failed to check the road they were moving into was clear. That's the point most of us are trying to make.

I need to dig out my copy of Roadcraft but isn't there something in there to the effect that you will never be involved in an accident which there was nothing you could do to prevent.

I look at that road and see fast road, high probability that slow traffic will be overtaken, dangerous parking spot, wrong side of road, difficult to pull out of safely, caution needed when entering. Then I see the nice view.

Indicating as I was taught is a request to manoeuvre, it doesn't mean "watch out I'm coming through". If you move into another lane then it is your responsibility to make sure that lane is clear in both directions.

As you are so fond of the highway code.

Dyche has appealed the severity of his sentence. His appeal was thrown out by the appeal court. A link to the article in today's Daily Post:

http://db.tt/Lv99FRf8

I've now had a chance to drive the road, and film it on my Roadhawk HD dashcam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRhUU28 ... e=youtu.be

The layby where Denise Griffith was pulling over to the right to park in was just behind the "Slow Tractor" sign in this video, but notice that it's since been replaced by a long length of earth barrier. Back in April 2011, the vegetation wouldn't have been as verdant as it was today, and some of the trees would have been shorter.

RWJ

Yes it'sa good fast road with good forward visibility ( I used to drive it frequently about 15 years ago).

Anyone pulling over to the right, without checking their mirror, for someone overtaking them, is asking for trouble.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

What's particularly evident is that there isn't a single or double white line down the centre of the road. That's particularly illuminating, isn't it? Having refreshed my memory of what the road looks like, I'm just as firm in my opinion that the wrong driver was prosecuted. I would estimate the 807's speed to be 30mph to have been able to pull into the dirt layby once Denise Griffith'd spotted it. Any faster and she'd have had to have made a severe brake application.

I keep on thinking how differently this case would have been handled had it happened on a dual carriageway. A S/C road with no oncoming traffic to be seen for a considerable distance and no road junction for a considerable distance can be considered to be a D/C. So why was Dyche prosecuted?

because every one knows that "speedkills" and not inattentive or careless driving. He was the driver doing the higher speed so ..."guilty!"

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.