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Oh good, that means no-one will notice if I decide to use mine

I notice that tinted windows seem to be more popular on repmobiles since the phone ban.

Does that mean this problem can be overcome by appropriate training then?

Surely not!

Next thing you'll be suggesting it's sometimes safe to exceed the speed limit if you're a police-trained driver!

The mobile call in the driving test is a good idea but I think it will be very easy to train all but the dimmest applicants to "do the right thing" just for the test. It's like when I took my test. We only have one set of unmarked crossroads within reach of the driving test centre so everyone knew that as soon as they went into a particular area, it was because they were going to be taken on the "unmarked crossroads" route!

Please show me the statistics for the half a million crashes per day to back up the danger claims.

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Andrew.

Even if the problem can't be overcome by proper training in and of itself, it doesn't mean that failing to cover info that you could be tested on at anytime is proper. Just because ignorance of the law is no excuse doesn't excuse or endorse a testing standard that is not only abysmally low, but increasingly anachronistic.
The absolute minimum requirements of training and testing should always be changing to suit the times, and should never give the impression that the bar is falling.True, Emergency Vehicle Operations Courses are useless without the proper uniform. I wonder why civilians are ever allowed to take them ...

I, personally, could live with the negatives if the NYS L-Test was administered in Manhattan, but then again, does a guy who drives 750 miles a week really know anything?

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What about just ignoring it. Is this a perfect, good or just indifferent response?

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Malcolm W.
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I suppose that, today, you could customize the ringtone so that you've a better idea of whether or not to answer.

Sure, why not? If it's really important, they'll either txt you, or keep calling you until you can either pull over or answer when it's safe to do so.

Some people who don't know or understand choice theory feel compelled to answer a ringing phone, but the driver must resist that compulsion when more urgent demands on attention exist.

The point is that the tester must observe that the driver's priorities are in order.

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The Rules for ALL ROAD USERS:
1) No one gets hurt
2) Nothing gets hit, except to protect others; see Rule#1
3) The Laws of Physics are invincible and immutable - so-called 'laws' of men are not
4) You are always immediately and ultimately responsible for your safety first, then proximately responsible for everyone's
Do not let other road users' mistakes become yours, nor yours become others
5) The rest, including laws of the land, is thoughtful observation, prescience, etiquette, decorum, and cooperation

I wonder what proportion of convictions has resulted from people making calls whilst stuck in traffic jams - easy pickings?

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I hate seeing people driving with a phone clamped to their ear but even I know the law was written incorrectly in that it's an offence to use one while the engine is running (even if you are parked).

It should have been while the car is in motion only.

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Malcolm W.
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Small? Bearing in mind the police in their cars would also be stuck in the jam. Unless someone is dim and unobservant enough as to spark up a conversation in full view of the feds.
Hmm, perhaps its quite a lot then

Don't even go to Florida.


I thought they 'enforced' this law with their spy cameras? There's hundreds of them on motorways. I even noticed that a small town near me has been infested with them too now!

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Andrew.