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That's fine if they are the only person in the car but if there are passengers then surely a "loose" passenger flying around the interior of car could do untold damage. I admit this opinion is based on what I have been told and not witnessed first hand but seems logical.

Cheers

Paul

I guess 5 litres of Dulux gloss paint on the back seat, or my lap-top in its case could also hurt.
There are some risks in life about which we must be allowed to make our own decisions and not have the 'safety brigade' legislating against everything. It's a matter of personal choice really.

Hmm, you can put paint in the boot, you'd get some funny looks of the police if you put a person in there. Yes life is full of risks, but don't invite them in, you obvioulsy haven't seen what happens to some one who goes through the windscreen.

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'Detritus, get yer stoney arse over ere'

I have... it was me. 18 years old in a VW beetle, not wearing a seatbelt and not paying attention - didn't see that the lorry in front of me had stopped, until all hell broke loose.
I was lucky, a few stitches in my head, chin and elbow, and permanently dodgy knees - it could have been much worse.
Never done anything like that again in the past 34 years, mind.

Regards
Peter

I don't diagree with you regards enforcement, just that we need to be careful that our choices do not lead to the removal of the choice from the people around us, no matter how securely strapped in the baby might be if a 60kg adult is bouncing around the interior it could be for naught.

Oh yes and whilst I know nothing about Dulux, I can tell you that 75cl of Cabernet sauvignon hitting the seat runner during an emergency stop may not hurt but it don't an half stink! Funnily enough that goes in the boot every time now!

Cheers

Paul

You're lucky you didn't get stopped - you would have had your work cut out trying to avoid a DUI

In a "london taxi" with no passenger in the front seat a taxi driver is safe from any idiot in the rear - you would be amazed at how many react badly when asked to pay. Wear a seat belt in a car type taxi or a private hire vehicle and you risk attack and the belt is an ideal restraining item - try it in an 8 seater minibus - you versus 8 passengers - get the picture - you either use the taxi drivers friend( wheelbrace- which pc plod frowns on ) or run and a seat belt hinders that .

Not only does this affect others lives (note: 75kg objects flying around at 30mph can be dangerous), but it affects society. It is society that has to bear the brunt of the death of a non-belt wearer. Not only do they have to pay for the treatments of those that are seriously injured, but there is all the police time spent on investigating a fatality scene, the fact the road is closed off causes problems for the transport system, the ambulance services have to be at the scene...all this at the costs of the tax payer.

Rugby generates more revenue than the medical costs I'm sure, mountain climbing might do as well actually, and most rock climbers get more training than drivers. Seat beltless drivers do not generate revenue (Except in fines).

Surely, if driving is in any way a necessary part of their employment, then they do generate revenue?

It is their driving that gets the revenue, not the property of being without a seat belt.

came back to have a look at this one . strange sense of deja vu looking at post by NEIL JEFFREYS on Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:04 am

"Same reason as why police officers don't wear them. you don't know whats on in the mind of the bugger in the back seat, and its no fun being strangled with your own seat belt", exactly what i said 23 feb, only its a lot worse in a minibus, with 8 behind you. Black cabs , designed to carry five passengers do not have this problem, in the event of trouble the driver heads for a police station, keeping doors locked at lights with footbrake on. Certain black cabs are adapted to carry a passenger in front as well --THATS WHEN THE DRIVER MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS.
When you look at how many miles taxi firms drive , the ratio of collisions to accident is low, and the biggest danger to a driver nowadays is the amount of cash he/she carries or is percieved to carry.
The rise in the amount of black cabs could be attributed to councils persuading taxi companies to get these as additions by guaranteeing licence plates for each so that the council could meet its disability target ( black cabs can carry wheelchairs)