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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 23:11 
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Earl Purple wrote:
Why are immigration issues being brought into this? What's it got to do with anything?

I'm sorry but I'm getting sick of hearing these immigration issues, which to me border on fascism.

No, we don't want them to come here and drive dangerously, we don't want them to come here and stab our police officers to death, and we don't want them to come here to blow us up. Obviously, if they come here they have to keep to the law like the rest of us.


YES - EARL

we ,in britain obey the british laws. If we got to another country we are expected to obey their laws ([[/b]even if we don't know them)

So why can't they be expected to obey ours.

It's not about immigration, not about racism, its about decency and a equal sense of values.






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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:05 
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Ernest Marsh wrote:
IanH wrote:
This should be IMHO expanded to also include Causing death by careless driving while knowingly driving illegally, which would include
driving while disqualified,
driving other than in accordance with a driving licence,
driving while knowingly uninsured,
driving while in the commission of an arrestable criminal act.


I was'nt sure about increasing sentencing for death caused while driving knowingly uninsured.

Insurance does not affect driving ability or mitigate it, and the last point should cover it if the circumstances required it.

Quote altered a little to clarify the question being answered

The driving would still have to be careless for the offence to be complete, and it could all work within the framework of Sec 3A with sentencing powers of up to 14 years imprisonment.

It'd do very little to prevent the fatality from occurring, but would at least add to the sentencing powers of the courts to give them the power to sentence appropriately, to give the bereaved families and the general public the feeling that justice has been done.

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