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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:58 
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In Gear wrote:
If the majority of first time totters do not get a ban - then that makes a mockery of the system. Most folk we know of who achieve 12 points GET the mandatory ban. If they do not - then this undermines the whole point of penalty points as a deterrent.
UK law requires punishment to be proportionate to the seriousness of the offending and accepts that, as far as possible, only the offender should be punished. Hence the possibility of an exceptional hardship argument. If someone tots for a second time within 3 years of making a successful exceptional hardship plea they will lose their licence, no matter how desperate the hardship caused, unless they can find an entirely new set of reasons. That is very rarely possible.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 13:09 
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In Gear wrote:
You mean the ones you see on your 26 or so sittings?
For many years it was the maximum 100 sittings a year however, with the current fad for putting sentencing powers in the hands of single individuals who act as witness, prosecutor and judge I am now only doing about 50 per year. In terms of knowing what does, or does not, happen in court I feel it gives me an advantage over people whose involvement in court proceedings is normally limited to the time they spend in the witness box giving evidence.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 21:33 
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OK .. my take!


Steve C shows himse;lf as the hypocrite we all know him to be. You do not invent other personae to back a point. You have the firm belief in the quality of your argument. As SteveC invents alter egos as constant (proven facts from the owners of other boards :lol: - this seems to indicate the SCP has lost both the plot and the argument here :popcorn: SteveC - you must do better :lol: You are up against folk with MENSA IQs on this board. ALL here are skilled drivers and all well blessed in the IQ department.. All comment suggest such ..and I include weepej/Abercormbie/handy/dcb/Peyote and countless others who input opinions which I might not agree with - but RESPECT because of the logical reasoning they apply and the courteous way in which these "vent their spleen" = can be taken seriously /. be respected ..and they respect the other opinion as these folk recognise that this is a serious discussion board whereas YOU use it as a hymn sheet and an springboard for asinine vulgar bile. I donot like posting so "negatively" to anyone as I know that the PRIVILEGE is NOT posting to a forum but OUR ALLOWING replies to ENTER OUR HOME in reality.

No member of this family has sought to upset anyone. We consider the trolls and they know who they are . have tried this on US and when we respond with some composure (apart from when we were stressed out with the trauma of twins and impact on my my wife;s health /) /.. and we hit hard with home truths to some ..

BUT.. / we find they are really cowards who cannot face reality and who have to invent alter egos to attack a reasoned and very politely phrased point of view.

They do themselves no favours by the way. :wink: r

AS REGARDS this person.in this thread .. Boss of BSM?

Hell . We used BSM/RAC/AA/loca/family .. mix..
to teach our three young drivers and I am thus disappointed in this guy. RAC .. work with BSM... :roll: They have recent;y ditched Corsa for a fairly sporty Fiat by the way :bow:


But.. if you are in a high profile position .. have endless cash and an equally endless supply of chauffeurs for self and elderyly Mum.. sorry but there's just no excuses here. :roll: He should have supplied details of who was driving or at least been able to prove he had taken all reasoned steps and proven a cul-de-sac here :roll: He already had 11 points. Most are angelic and ultra-cautious at 3-6 - let alone a 9-er :popcorn: He comes across as a moron.. who should and deserves a ban. Steve in his sock puppet disguises proves his complete indifference to road saftey and will disagree with reasoned logic out of pure illogical prejudice against anything to do with safespeed. Fortunately - this fool happens to be in a minority.

He has no excuses. He should have made it clear he tried all he could to idntify the driver. He already had 11 points which I struggle to comprehend given his position and the PRIDE I take in maintaining my clean driving licence as a matter of my own integrity. I could not spout COAST values .. nor could IG. .. nor my wife .. nor any of this family if we did not apply it all and take stern self discipline.

Steve C is the real hypocrite here and proves it by his need to invent alter egos to prove his point You would have to be insecure as a person with on-line belief in doctrine to do this. So Steve.. cease the ad hominem and argue your case as within your own values. You'd win more support/credibility if you did so :wink: I am trying very hard to be fair to you here. For all your bile - we are who we say we are and have made no secret of our family links. You - on the other hand - make up alter egos. It serves to weaken your case. So STEVE Callaghan .. BE YOURSELF! Yoo have no need to pretend to us here. :wink: We see straight through you anyway :lol:

I know there is some bad history .. but if you post honestly and truly from your heart -I am sure we can all listen ot your points and respond like the intelligent adults we all know ourselves to be here. So ball in your court here. :wink:

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