graball wrote:
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“I'd say Tufty and his pals have a lot to answer for. There's nothing wrong with road safety education, of course, but the problem is that by placing the emphasis on teaching them how to stay out of harm's way, these campaigns signalled that responsibility for keeping children safe lay with the children themselves, rather than the adults who designed the streets and drove the cars.”
Yes, lets ban everything that is unsafe for children. Like matches, water, gas, poisons, knives,forks, high things they could fall off, electricity, glass items....OR.... we could teach them they are dangerous and to leave them alone until they are old enough to use them properly.
I remember as a kid that apart from learning that roads were dangerous places...as well as open fires, matches, knives, electricity, poisons etc we also learnt at school that certain mushrooms, plants and snakes were dangerous....does this happen any more or are we supposed to eradicate these "dangerous "things for the sake of our children?
I recall having a "conversation" on PH with "millsee" who - like us - once posted prolifically to both of sites of interest to the enthusiastic driver - and what differentiates those who post to Safespeed from the "clarksonesques who pay little heed to real
and SCP fools like our submarinated pal (
who torpedoes his own point of view by being an ass-hole - who can only back his own point of view by creating a number of fake internet accounts and then "talking to himself via his multi-personality disorder - check out the Westmorland Gazette and various accounts on here and on P{H 
Rich tapestry of life .. but from reading various comments since return from 
"jollydays" that guy sure has hell has an "inferiority complex" which he needs to address if he wishes to be taken seriously by anyone out there now. STEVE - stop fibbling and act like a MANAGER of yourself and your convictions (as meaning deeply held beliefs) pleaseQ! 
Anyway - back to my on-line chatterings with "millsee" where we compared childhood disciplines - against the size 10 plimsoll favoured by my own Dad
to the rolled up newspapers "millsee's" father used to prefer
Did not do us any harm. I think - from millsee's opinions (as a road engineer
) and my own stance - we each grew into mature and well balanced adults with decent professional careers and reputations/professional integrity and responsibility within these careers of ours.
But within all this - we each - along with many PH-ers of a similar mindset and education to ourselves
- recalled the stern warnings for our own safety which - if not heeded were reminded via a slap on the legs/bottom or wrist
I recalled various adverts - such as the one about "loitering on train lines" and being hit by a train ..an another showing a kid being run-over by a car- and they showed the child as a compete "dumb ass" wjo met his Maker prematurely because in life - he had been rather "silly and foolish"
Not exactly "politically correct nor conversant with "personal emotional/touchy-feely-huggybear feelings"
- but it
worked as me and my schoolmates did not want to be remembered as the "village idiot"
Basically - I was taught the following and I hope I passed all this on to my own and all the fostered kids who are or have passed through our care since 1992 to date.
1. Never ever take sweets or money from a stranger/
2. Never ever accept a lift in any car or other vehicle from a stranger.
3. Roads are always fairly dangerousif you let them be so: YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR ALL TRAFFIC! and cross where you can see.. where you know it will be safe. And to be able to judge speed and distance fairly accurately
4. Fires BURN and hurt.. like matches can. I grew up with open log and coal fires and an Aga. I have the same in my own home. Our kids are aware of the dangers
5. I learned the hard way that falling from a tree top is not a very good idea.
Broke my collar bone at age 10. I passed this gem on to my own kids. Sadly - Lukas will climb up to the roof of our barn to retrieve his football despite all warnings.
(Or does he take heed of them as this kid seems to be rather "feline"
and very "sure padded on his feet"/. I am up against the belief that "kids are immortal" -per Lukas who seems to be a bit on the "fearless side"
OK .. I will accept it's normal for a kid aged just 11... but I am still a worried parent all the same - even if I got up to similar antics once upon a time
"Pay back time- for grey hairs caused" as my own parents warned me once!
6. But a kid has to learn the hard way. A bit like the story which hit the headlines only this last week. You know the Waily one
Our kids start school wearing nappies! On the Vine prog - the GP wotshername - Dr Sarah Jarvis - advocated "making the child feel uncomfortable if they are to learn self control and discipline over various human and social requirements" I AGREE 100%. And this nappy thing is related to the general apathy and irresponsibility which undermines all common sense in the UK.
You may blame the EU. Hand on heart - MOST OF THE UK DISEASE OF SELFISH APATHY DOES NOT HAPPEN ON THE CONTINENT Little Britain tends to make it all up to excuse its shortcomings. EU has issues with speed cams. They hit back hard.. as hard as Paul did and Claire now does
as in intelligently.
But the UK in current "junta of Labour politics and machinations" .. embraces the ideas of trendy poliically correct fools.. blames the EU which does not actually embrace any of this..
and does nowt other than fart around.
If anyone dares counter these farts with fresh air - we get the sort of bile as associated with Greenshed - and his second account to this board of chunky 123.
(Read objectively on return over Monday and today = SAME PERSON in my opinion - and it's against the rules for one person to have several personae on all fora.)
As these posters are -in fact by style and other clues
- one and the same person . So wake up! If a person can only counter an opinion by opening up a sock puppet support account - then he or she has lost all credibilty and opinion. ;wink:
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