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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 17:57 
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Gatsobait wrote:
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Sociable? :lol: 25+ million of those on the roads... sociable? :lol: :lol: :roll:


They won't need constant vigilance, conscious effort nor undue effort to stay within the speed limit in one of these, so it is a good choice for those facing bans. In fact, it would take undue effort to reach half the speed limit. The only thing is, there may not be enough torque to get over the speed bumps!

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basingwerk wrote:
You appear to have conceded that in some circumstances, your statement could be false
followed by yet another BW dreamworld scenario


I haven't conceded anything.
My terms of reference were quite clearly set out earlier on in that thread:

Pete317 wrote:
It's true to say that more speed does increase the probability of a collision with another road user, because - due to braking distance increasing by the square of speed - you have a greater probability of being in the wrong place at the wrong time (the wrong place being anywhere within your total stopping distance of a hazard, and the wrong time being when that hazard is in your path) As such, your risk increases less than linearly with speed, ie twice the speed increases the risk less than twice.


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The only proviso is that the time between hazards is longer than the exposure time - but this is (almost) always the case. You're hardly likely to have two pedestrians independently stepping out in front of you within your stopping distance, and if that did happen then the two could be counted as a single hazard.


Both those postings were before your post which stated, in reply to the first one:

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You have that back to front. Most studies show that risk increases more than linearly with speed.

Try it for yourself. Pull into your drive at 15 mph, avoiding the children and the plant pots. Next, pull into your drive at 30 mph, and check how much damage you have done. Lastly, pull in at 60 mph, remembering to wear your seat belt this time. And open the garage door, else you’ll knock it down.

If your car is still driveable, repeat the experiment several times, and put the results up on this web site when you are quire sure that the risk of crashing when pulling into your drive at 60 mph is somewhat more that 4 times the risk at 15 mph! Good luck - you'll need it!


So who's sprouting crap now?

Try putting your brain in gear before you open your mouth in future.


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basingwerk wrote:
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I would be prepared to pay the £1,300 extra this new GPS speed limiter would cost


What is the guff on this new GPS speed limiter?

The guff is that when (or indeed if) it ever becomes reality, then myself & plenty of others like me will make a small fortune very quickly by hooking up a laptop and having a little "chat" with it (just as we did when so called "tamperproof" electronic speedo's became the norm).

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We're obviously dealing with someone who's a few sandwiches short of a picknick in the guise of Basingwerk, aren't we?

The man talks about driving around multi story car parks at 60mph, or onto one's drive at a similar speed.

Basingwerk, you claim you want the rest of us to "get with the programme", I would respectfully suggest you get a life and stop trolling: Our amusement at your idiocy in such peurile comments is really quite unfair on you.

I think Paul Smith should introduce a prerequisite requirement that you have to have an iq greater than that of a sloping forheaded nuckle dragging Neaderthol.

Time to wake up now, Basingwerk... Wakey, wakey.

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PaulF wrote:
I think Paul Smith should introduce a prerequisite requirement that you have to have an iq greater than that of a sloping forheaded nuckle dragging Neaderthol.


Cheerio then, PaulF.


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I think Paul Smith should introduce a prerequisite requirement that you have to have an iq greater than that of a sloping forheaded nuckle dragging Neaderthol.


Cheerio then, PaulF.


Have you failed the entrance exam then, friend of Basingwerk?


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Pete317 wrote:
more speed does increase the probability of a collision with another road user, because - due to braking distance increasing by the square of speed - you have a greater probability of being in the wrong place at the wrong time (the wrong place being anywhere within your total stopping distance of a hazard, and the wrong time being when that hazard is in your path) As such, your risk increases less than linearly with speed, ie twice the speed increases the risk less than twice.


I have demonstrated twice to you that, in some circumstances, your risk increases more than linearly with speed, so your statement above is wrong. The big man himself concedes that, at very high speeds, risk becomes catastrophically high and asymptotically approaches 100%. Just think about it – the risk of crashing in my village streets reaches infinity (100%) long before you can reach extremely high speeds. Unfortunately, your statement above simply cannot be true!

If you could only learn to use your grey matter, instead of just responding instinctively, you’d realise that. You are in grave danger of becoming joining PaulF in the group of Agnry Mne!

PS. I notice PaulF’s English is getting even worse – “forheaded”, “nuckle”, “neaderthol”! Do you think he’s a foreigner, or just thick?

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There's quite enough trouble out there that we must all address without fighting amongst ourselves. So I'm calling a halt and closing this thread.

Ad hominem attacks are banned forthwith. A moderator will decide if a statement was an attack or a joke. Jokes are welcome, especially if they are funny.

People violating the ad hominem ban will receive just one warning. Further attacks will result in the poster being banned.

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