PeterE wrote:
repiV wrote:
PeterE wrote:
A common problem is drivers who do not understand spiral markings on roundabouts (which are now becoming usual at major intersections) and so often end up moving, or trying to move, over a lane to their right, thus cutting up other drivers.
Very often you just *know* they are going to do this from their general positioning, but when traffic is heavy it is not always easy just to keep out of their way.
Imo those marked roundabouts are one of the most dangerous road planning inventions around. They're always much more dangerous to negotiate than a normal roundabout...total menace.
Nonsense, they channel traffic around the roundabout in a safe, predictable way and greatly reduce the possibility of lane conflict. This is especially true for signalised roundabouts (where spirals are virtually essential, really) but also works well for the busier non-signalised ones. You just have to get used to them.
With non-spiral roundabouts, anyone using L2 and then seeking an exit always runs the risk of conflict with someone in L1.
I'll second PeterE here - repIV, as you bike in London, try a jaunt up the Hanger Lane Gyratory and try to imagine it without spiral lane markings!!
I don't really agree with lights on roundabouts (can road junctions suffer from schizophrenia ... "I'm a roundabout ... no I'm lights ... no, I'm a roundabout again!") but I agree that there are some where it is a necessary evil - the Hanger Lane example comes to mind here. The problem is that often the lights are essential at peak times, but they operate all day and night, leaving you sitting there and wondering when it will be your chance to go.
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