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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 16:49 
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I've never seen a deliberate one of these obstructions. However, I just wonder (and it is wonder, and not a suggestion!), how fast would one need to be going on the approach to those boards if one hugged the right hand kerb right up until the boards obstructed view, concentrating 100% "right of boards" for the last 5 seconds or so leading up to the boards and confirming "clear", guaranteeing it still to be clear for X seconds, then gunning it, if necessary kerb-clipping or opposite locking to go straight over?

A friend of mine lives off a country lane that has width for about 2.0001 cars. His drive comes out onto the road with next to no visibility to the right, but thanks to the topography, very clear visibility that way from 20 yards back up the drive for a good distance. Conversely, visibility to the left is clear when you get to the end of the drive, but hopeless until you're within a couple of car lengths.

The way to emerge from that drive very safely is to sit for 5-10 seconds at the house end of the drive, or longer, until you see clear daylight to the right, then to boot it to within 3 car lengths of the road end of the drive, brake in case you need to stop, looking left, if clear, out you go. If not, reverse up and do it again. No other safe way.


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A very dangerous way to live! suppose fred dibnahs mate is trundling along at 10 mph in 20 ton of steam roller or two wee kids are slowly cycling....

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Suppose I'm on the roundabout and for whatever reason someone approaching the roundabout is going to fail to give way. He might be tired or distracted or something. With normal visibility I'm well placed to recognise he's approaching too fast to stop and take my own avoiding action. With the visual barrier I lose the chance to avoid the crash.


too true. most accidents need two events to start. the first event has already happened is driver error and event no 2 was planned by the road designer.

Also paul may be coming round the roundabout I can't see him my decision to go or stop becomes very short. I only need a split second mistake or a sneeze to mess up. I might sneeze and decide to stop as I can't see causing a rear end pile up.

It is also not very green. If you have to loose all speed to enter every roundabout that is a lot of unnessesary petrol, desiel and noise. It punnishes drivers who think and plan ahead, those who drive smoothly and retrains them as stop go merchents.


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My main concern looking at those pictures would be for emergency vehicles. An unnecessary hazard.


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After the outbreak of piety from the PM over yobs and how the govt is going to crack down on them and his attitude( i'm off abroad so they can't blame me if it don't work, and i can take the credit if it works) - it is rumoured that thr Govt has come up with another excellent idea to cut traffic accidents-
1) outlaw engines in vehicles
2) lock all brakes on

that way if speed kils, then if they can't move they can't cause accidents.
Look nice in your drive, pity about getting anywhere. :lol:


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As a follow up to this tread I contacted the highways agency about my overgrown roundabod.
I expected a nman in a tractor to mow the trees and gorse. :oops:

How wrong I was! :shock:

An army of trucks and men cut down about 200 small trees, coned off a lane for 10 days and the roundabout is almost naked..
but the traffic flows much better..... even at 6pm :lol:

Sorry tree huggers!

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This is the kind of stupid stuff that happens when you make speed reduction the be-all-and-end-all of a whole Country's road safety policy.

What next? Speed humps on motorways?

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