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Now -now - don't go calling our local councils ( and whoever fits them at the "staff"exit/entrance to motorway areas) that nasty word.


Edit/edit - found the link , now waiting for fun ,as our local County man loves to see this sort of thing get aired.

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I wonder if it's entered anyone's head that the current regime's tactics of care-free destruction of expensive machines whether that be Police for suspecting you have no tax or insurance or pop-up bollards mangling vehicles that way......is slighty contrary to the popular notion of protecting the environment.

Leaving all the possibilities of death behind, and even forgetting about financial damage done by destroying vehicles which make petty infringements.....

Doesn't anyone think that these vehicles have taken a lot of resources to make in the first place, and that producing a replacement (thanks to the destruction of the first, perfectly good one) is harmful to the environment?

I doubt it, because it is my opinion that "the environment" is just a convenient front for left-wing battles for increasing control of people.

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Not that extreme, but had some direct action near us... I will try not to get started on the bigger picture which is equally ridiculous, the little bit of it that's relevant here is that there is a one way route across a railway bridge just near us in Surbiton, where I assume the bridge is unsafe for heavy loads and so there is a pinch point marked out by kerbs and with low, wide metal lumps at ground level. This allows cars through easily, and if a van or small lorry gets stuck (because the access has been deliberately narrowed 50 yards further back, making turning or otherwise retreating impossible).

However, these low lumps/bollards (is there a proper name?) got damaged at some point and they were replaced not by replicas but by three foot metal posts placed at the inner edge of where the lump-bollards had been. Now it was almost impossible to get through in our car, quite apart from anything at all bigger, particularly since they were above mirror height.

BY THE NEXT DAY someone had sawn the tops off them, and TWO DAYS LATER one of them had also been wrenched out of the ground so the top lay back towards the pavement, giving a crucial extra few inches.

Six months later they replaced these posts with exactly what we'd had before and normality is restored!

Ian

I saw one of these bollards in action today. To say it had audible and visual warning is a bit of a stretch: it had a red LED and beeped, but only while it was actually rising, not before. While down it blended in to the road surface. It just missed out on sending an elderly woman flying, who walked over it a second before it rose (perhaps it sensed the person and waited, but judging by the damage and injuries in other cases, it's doubtful.)

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I wonder how long it will be before someone deliberately rams them while they're up.

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Andrew.

Can see some "your hurt -we make money" style legal firm making some money ,out of an injury claim - then whoops - these things go swiftly out of fashion.

Trouble is that the NIMBY lot have goten away wit this a lot - was down north London recently - had to go from Kenton to somewhere Hatch end (A404) ---LOOKED OK - 50 yds from some village we got to a sign warning about narrow road. Wasn't a narrow road - was some road scheme to stop those not much wider than transit getting through ---WHY -don't the locals want stuff delivered.


Reminds me of the beer ad - 4 pack falls in sea - one says to other "no sharks in there " -"no" says the other (and in low tones "crocks killed the sharks"

That is really scary.

I can not think of any thing to say.

do those electroic signs change when the bollards are down?

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I think it's a shame that in the video who you could see a car reversing and trying to bet the bollards.

That selfish driver will make innocent drivers who honestly didn't know the bullards would rise up seem guilty.

I still don't like the idea of them rising up in front of vehicles and they should work on that.

Found this http://www.atgaccess.com/FifthGearBollard.wmv

Hope that high security ones aren't used in town centres...

These articles appeaared in the Manchester press the other day











The editor is still scathing about this.

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Here's a video of the Manchester ones in action, disabling vehicles and ripping off bumpers..

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d/519.html

Never realised how fast they are, that's insane.

Oh, I'm sure if you'd spent enough time driving round and round in circles you'd have eventually found a van-friendly route into the village - I've yet to see such a scheme which entirely blockades an area to wide vehicles, but several which make it impossible (or at least totally pointless due to the convoluted path required) to use the area as a through-route.

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Cannot be safe. What if a cyclists in a CM or a surge of pedestrians fooled the sensors into thinking "car"

A bus was harpooned after all.

Not reliable and thus very dangerous.

As we are all off on the "epic" for a week or so.. and my brother and sisters in that area area are also joining the "epic" .. will not have photo taken by family for a while.

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It's about time these people started using standard videos instead of shite DRM encumbered ones.

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Oh, I'm sure if you'd spent enough time driving round and round in circles you'd have eventually found a van-friendly route into the village - I've yet to see such a scheme which entirely blockades an area to wide vehicles, but several which make it impossible (or at least totally pointless due to the convoluted path required) to use the area as a through-route.[/quote]


Oh - i did - close by - point i'm making was that it was all right to drive through some one elses back streets , but not through theirs. And this was a main A class road , with no prior advice of the restriction.(AND no suggested diversion .) OH SORRY - forgot that it occurred in the Republic of London

Works fine for me using the mplayer plugin for mozilla/firefox/konqueror

Oooo mplayer plugin, hey? If only my Linux machine's main hard disk hadn't died the other day I'd try it.
I'm on MacOS at the moment - "Do you want to install windows media player?" err no thanks.

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Andrew.

Ripping off bumpers - isn't that "interfering with vehicles on the public highway " and "criminal damage "

http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
http://kmplayer.kde.org/

The latter, whilst KDE only also provides a browser plugin for xine and other popular player backends.

Can't help you on OS/X though. I thought they would have had something by now as opensource ASF/WMV decoders have been around for years