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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 14:27 
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I've no problem with this sort of thing twister, as it is not an offence. However eating at the wheel is.


I don't quite understand your stance here. Taking a quick sip of a drink, or a quick bite of food, is no more distracting than adjusting non-critical controls - indeed, in some cases it may even be less distracting - and provided you're not driving around with one hand permanently filled with food/drink, there should be no reduction in your ability to control the vehicle. So if you really believe in the "when you are driving, drive" message, how can you have no problem in performing an action which has at least as much potential to take your attention away from driving, simply because the action is legal?

Apologies if it sounds like I'm on the offensive here, I'm really just trying to understand. :?


No problem, I deal with far more offensive stuff than this in work :D What I'm saying is my hand has to move to change gears etc. The radio controls are part of the wheel assembly. Eating and drinking are a bigger distraction, especially if you drop some on your lap ie looks down tsk tsk must brush that off before it stains.....BANG, or as has allready been said, you drop your food, and it rolls around your car, and as an example, goes under the brake pedal, or you step on it (lets say a bannana, or greasy food), and then step on the brake hard, only to find your foot slipping off. Now I know there are a lot of ifs here (if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle), but upping the volume on my wheel, won't do any of the above.
Also the changes I talk about move your hand for a couple of seconds, eating can occupy your hand for a lot longer. Eating as I have said is not a driving 'norm', it is a seperate action in itself.

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To be honest I am not even sure if eating and driving is illegal in Australia but I have often eaten a chocolate bar while driving locally.

On a longer trip I will eat and drink regularly, while driving on clear sections of straight road, and I see no problem with it.

To me the whole argument seems no different to the arguments about speeding. Why are we constrained by an arbitrary speed limit when at times it is clearly safe to drive at higher speeds? Why are we not allowed to eat/drink while driving when there are clearly times when it is safe and appropriate?

As I state regularly, I drive within my comfort zone and if I am comfortable eating or drinking then I will continue to do so. If I felt that to do so was NOT safe then by definition I would not be driving within my comfort zone.

Just my A$0.02 worth...

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Good post, Ross, I agree wholeheartedly.

I suppose the same goes for talking, tuning the radio, giving a hand signal, scratching an itch, picking your nose, using a handsfree telephone, changing gear, etc, etc. etc... we generally only do them in our comfort zone.

Funnily enough, the most dangerous distraction I have experienced is perfectly legal (at least it was when I last looked :-) )... sneezing!

If you've ever felt an unstoppable sneeze coming on in the middle of a hazardous situation you'll know what I mean.


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If you've ever felt an unstoppable sneeze coming on in the middle of a hazardous situation you'll know what I mean.
Shhh. You'll give them ideas about getting hayfever sufferers off the road next.

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NEIL JEFFREYS wrote:
I've no problem with this sort of thing twister, as it is not an offence. However eating at the wheel is.


Sorry Neil, eating at the wheel is NOT an offence. There is no such offence on the statute book. It is down the the discretion or otherwise of officers to report as DWDC. The CPS to prosecute and mags to rubber stamp the process


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