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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 03:19 
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On again at 2:30am on BBC Parliament. Catch it if you can and hear Ladyman stuttering and spluttering.

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I managed to grab the audio...

The first questioner is Richard Ottaway. The first question is written (Number 4 in the Order book) and asks something like: "What assessments have been carried out of the speed camera programme?"

Richard Ottaway asked the second question verbally and gets a really rather fluffed and deliberately misleading response from Dr Ladyman.

Listen here: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/pq001.mp3 (!.2MB)

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About quarter of road fatalities involve people who are speeding or involve speed in some form or another.


this is intresting. I did not put the errrm and errrrrs in it.

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Involves speed in some form or another eh? Insomuch as the vehicles are moving I'd suppose. What a revelation!


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I think I've got Ladyman's answer to the second question complete here:

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I, I couldn't agree less with the honourable gentleman. The simple, the simple fact of the ma... I mean he was even wrong when the - when he quotes the Department's statistics, which actually show that about a quarter of road fatalities involve, er involve er people er who are er er speeding or involve speed in some form or another. And the fact of the matter is that this is a situation that has been arrived at after the deployment of safety cameras which I believe is actually having a pervasive effect on people's attitude to speed on our roads, not just at camera sites but all around the road network. The simple fact of the matter is that cameras work. We took steps last year to make sure that there's no possible incentive for those who have to decide where the cameras go up in terms of, of the finances of, of cameras. Um The the the, if and the honourable gentleman says that three quarters of a million pounds were raised by one camera - well that indicates that a heck of a lot of people were speeding in that area and if they stopped speeding they wouldn't pay a penny.

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I think I've got Ladyman's answer to the second question complete here:

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I, I couldn't agree less with the honourable gentleman. The simple, the simple fact of the ma... I mean he was even wrong when the - when he quotes the Department's statistics, which actually show that about a quarter of road fatalities involve, er involve er people er who are er er speeding or involve speed in some form or another. And the fact of the matter is that this is a situation that has been arrived at after the deployment of safety cameras which I believe is actually having a pervasive effect on people's attitude to speed on our roads, not just at camera sites but all around the road network. The simple fact of the matter is that cameras work. We took steps last year to make sure that there's no possible incentive for those who have to decide where the cameras go up in terms of, of the finances of, of cameras. Um The the the, if and the honourable gentleman says that three quarters of a million pounds were raised by one camera - well that indicates that a heck of a lot of people were speeding in that area and if they stopped speeding they wouldn't pay a penny.


How depressing (but at least visibly/audibly incompetent). We are back to the usual "hang the facts - if a minister says it it's true" rubbish.


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Christ! Ladyboy's transcript puts me in mind of the character from the old Carry On films with the twitch! Did anyone notice if he actually jerked his chin over his shoulder and shouted "Phwa-hey! Give over!"?

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