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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 13:57 
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German drivers say life in fast lane is not the end of the worldDavid Crossland in Berlin
Motorists in the land where unrestricted driving is regarded as a birthright are furious at calls from environmentalists to impose a general speed limit on motorways.

The German Environment and Transport ministries joined the country’s main motoring organisation to denounce any such move. The outcry followed comments from Stavros Dimas, the European Environment Commissioner, who said: “There are so many areas in which we waste energy and burden the climate. A simple measure in Germany could be a general speed limit on highways.”

He told Bild am Sonntag: “Speed limits make a lot of sense for many reasons and are completely normal in most EU states, as in the US.”

But Sigmar Gabriel, the German Environment Minister, responded by saying that speed limits would have a negligible impact on the environment. “We’d simply be wrecking the climate at 130km/h (80mph) instead,” he told reporters.

Wolfgang Tiefensee, a spokesman for the Transport Minister, said: “Herr Dimas is disregarding all the facts. Imposing a limit of 100km/h on German motorways would reduce CO2 0.6 per cent.”

Environmentalists have been demanding speed restrictions for years, but successive governments have rejected the calls, mindful of the powerful motor industry, which employs 750,000 workers. It argues that limit-free roads encourage manufacturers to develop safer cars.

More than a third of Germany’s autobahns already have a speed limit, while the rest carry a recommended speed of 130km/h. High-performance BMWs and Mercedes hurtling down the fast lane at speeds in excess of that remain a common sight – and a disturbing one when they appear out of nowhere in one’s rear-view mirror with headlights flashing.

The VDA German motor industry federation said: “Germany needs no lessons in efficient climate protection from Brussels :yesyes:, especially when the proposals are merely symbolic.” It said that Germany had reduced its CO2 emissions from road traffic by 15 million tonnes, or 9 per cent, since 1999. “No other country can present comparable results – despite the absence of a speed limit,” the VDA said. “It has been repeatedly proven that the potential CO2 savings resulting from a speed limit would be very small.”

Let's hope this is a battle that Ze Germans win :)


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I thought most german build cars where limited to 150 mph anyway.

And from what I have seen most drive 80-90 mph.

They make it sound like it is a free for all, most people appear to stay at or around the adivsed 130 kph (and move quickly out of the way for the odd Merc/BMW bearing down on them at warp speed :lol: )

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This is nothing new really. I'm sure people have been campaigning for years for an auobahn speed limit.


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madroaduser wrote:
This is nothing new really. I'm sure people have been campaigning for years for an auobahn speed limit.


The Greens may well do so .. the rest of the political colours know which way the votes lie :wink:


(Based on what I think I read and understood in the FAZ Motoring section a bit back :wink:

I cannot be related to them Swiss and not know what they are on about.. :popcorn: Spent many a happy holiday with them.. and gained a couple of foreign languages as well.. which has been an asset to me personally :wink:

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madroaduser wrote:
This is nothing new really. I'm sure people have been campaigning for years for an autobahn speed limit.

Indeed, they (mostly non Germans) did since 1973 - 1974 when all other western governments introduced general speed limits on motorways.
The German government has an easy case. It just has to show its improvement on traffic safety since 1973. No other western country does better: 80% reduction in road casualties (UK: 60%, US: 40%)


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and a disturbing one when they appear out of nowhere in one’s rear-view mirror with headlights flashing.


I've never been to Germany, let alone driven on the Autobahn, but I was under the impression that 1) MOST drivers are very mindful of correct lane useage, and 2) it's actually illegal to flash your lights in an agressive fashion?

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