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jomukuk
 Post subject: 15 grand ?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 09:17 
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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Speedingrow-driver-hit-by-15000.4224474.jp

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 09:47 
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Ah, I see this was one of the hit squad cases.

Interesting that the report says that instruction books (and thus presumably correct use of equipment) are not required to be followed in law.

This appears perverse but it shows to what lengths and what amount of public money they are prepared to spend to defend cameras.

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Has the article been pulled....I get all the comments and a message at the top "This article has been unable to display"

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Yes, so do I now.

Interesting that some of the comments have also been pulled. A bit too controversial or libellous?

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"This appears perverse but it shows to what lengths and what amount of public money they are prepared to spend to defend cameras."

On a more sinister note, it serves to demonstrate just how far the forces of law have become - and are becoming, the enemy of those they pretend to serve........
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Spireman wrote:
just how far the forces of law have become - and are becoming, the enemy of those they pretend to serve........


They serve me, I'm well up for people being fined for speeding.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1341512.ece

Has it as well...although the comments page is still online on the star story.
Note the lancs speed camera income in the sun

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weepej wrote:
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just how far the forces of law have become - and are becoming, the enemy of those they pretend to serve........


They serve me, I'm well up for people being fined for speeding.

..and if somebody gets fined who WASN'T speeding?

Presumably you dont care.

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the law ceases to have any creditability when they ignore thier own laws.
The prosicution must be based on a prescribed device (gatso) set up in accordance with the type approval.
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as laid down in the road traffic act.
"rta 1991 s23:
23. For section 20 of the [1988 c. 53.] Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 (admissibility of measurement of speed by radar) there shall be substituted—
“Speeding offences etc: admissibility of certain evidence.

20. — (1) Evidence (which in Scotland shall be sufficient evidence) of a fact relevant to proceedings for an offence to which this section applies may be given by the production of—
(a) a record produced by a prescribed device, and
(b) (in the same or another document) a certificate as to the circumstances in which the record was produced signed by a constable or by a person authorised by or on behalf of the chief officer of police for the police area in which the offence is alleged to have been committed…..
(4) A record produced or measurement made by a prescribed device shall not be admissible as evidence of a fact relevant to proceedings for an offence to which this section applies unless—
(a) the device is of a type approved by the Secretary of State, and
any conditions subject to which the approval was given are satisfied.

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weepej wrote:
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just how far the forces of law have become - and are becoming, the enemy of those they pretend to serve........


They serve me, I'm well up for people being fined for speeding.


You'll be one of the loudest bleaters when you're caught doing 30.2mph once they've screwed the camera settings.
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quote="weepej]

They serve me, I'm well up for people being fined for speeding.[/quote]

You'll be one of the loudest bleaters when you're caught doing 30.2mph once they've screwed the camera settings.[/quote]

OH NOHE WON'T -by the sound of him he's one of those who know's where the taliban operate hour by hour -A TALIBAN TROLL .

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weepej
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botach wrote:
OH NOHE WON'T -by the sound of him he's one of those who know's where the taliban operate hour by hour -A TALIBAN TROLL .



Taliban? I think they're more interested in shoulder launched RPGs myself!

Good mix though, speed camera with RPG in it, hmmmm... :bunker:
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Spireman wrote:
"This appears perverse but it shows to what lengths and what amount of public money they are prepared to spend to defend cameras."

On a more sinister note, it serves to demonstrate just how far the forces of law have become - and are becoming, the enemy of those they pretend to serve........

That is true. They certainly do more bad than good.

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