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Came across this little "gem" on the part of the "jobs-not-worthys" in the MEN last week.











Now hold on. These are supposed to bang the uninsured chavs to rights - are n't they?

OK - she did not realise you have to pay if you stay too long these days. Easy enough to miss the darned sign if you are too tired to continue.





She did the right thing.




OK .. simple solution. Use the Knutsford services next time.. Or Sandbach..

Well - the cams will clamp her at Lymm if she uses the same car. Hope she does not decide to sell the car though.

My solution to the car park owners?

. Instead of employing a person to look at a camera screen all day.. would it not be better to hire folk to patrol the car parks? I say this because my sister got a trolley ding at one car park and was told that the camera or its operator had to actually zoooom in to record and identify the felons involved Same camera copped someone dropping a bit of litter though on way to waste bin per that area's local advertising newspaper rag.

Oh.. but then the aim of the game has never really been "safety"!





Yer whaaaaa- t-T! How ruddy much?


Blimey! You can park for much less on a hospital car park. Trust me. I am a doctor! (Always wanted to type that )



And what if I decided to stay over in the Travel Inn. (Actually they are not bad. We used them as a stopover on a couple of our holidays. ) In complete fairness - as in all hotels we stay at - they have the car's registration so as to know we are guests there. Some have charged me a feefor this. Some have buried it in the price of their room rates



It does seem very harsh. I think from an argument over the disabled bay on PH forum - she may be able get aways without paying. Ironically - both me and Wildy waded in at the deep end - and were arguing FOR the car park owners there because the idiot in question had used a disabled bay which just happened to be the only free bay at the time.. We sounded like them ruddy car hating lycra louts at one point Ah well - I guess that means we are "balanced" after all

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Ah.,. but the police only know criminal laws and speeding ones...


They are not that well versed in civil ones relating to private land. No reason why they should. It can be a mine field of small print and contracts.. with the court's test being how far actually enforceable





It's too high. £15 after 2 hours.




I hope so too, Emma .. use the other services for now..


Be careful. Read the signs. If you are really tired - use the overnight stop which ironically works out at the same fee as the fine - But has the comfort of soft bed .. and breakfast.

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Much as I do sympathise with her as service stations should provide free parking for nappers as they do toilets for everyone, I wonder why she's attempting to do such a long journey between two cities well served with public transport between them. There's a fast train service, a sleeper service or dirt cheap megabus.

I guess it depends on how much stuff she was carrying in the car, and whether she needed her car at either end of the journey.
When I go to visit my parents in France, I could drive to Blackpool, fly to Gatwick, change and fly to Dinard or Rennes, and get picked up by my parents, or hire a car...
but it is cheaper to drive 310 miles to Portsmouth, catch a ferry to Le Havre, and drive four hours to my parents, AND I get to bring numerous bottles of wine back, as well as cheeses, meats, breads and other delicacies to enjoy when I get back home.

The megabus is SO cheap that it attracts all sorts of low lifes who I wouldn't want to rub shoulders with!

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Cameras at Lymm services?? really?

Do they catch everthing?

Or a 3 hour car journey .Mind you ,depends on where in the country you live .I would suppose that to someone in London any more than 50 miles is a marathon ,to those who live outside longer journeys are possible without falling off the edge of the world .

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What is the purpose of the toll anyway? It's not going to affect rich people at all, even if it has a reasonable purpose.

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Well - she worked on a cruise ship. I guess she might have had a load of washing to take home to her Mama..

(Our eldest three visit us during vacations and long weekends home from Uni - and literally hammer Wildy with this.. and she's soft enough to just load the washing machine "indulgently" with grated teeth Ummm .. they ain't breeding out.. Umm .. they still take more after her than me )


Anyway .. she's a young lass. She may have had loads of laundry.. lots ot presies for her family .. and it may just have been that the bus timetable just was not suitable. Remember the huge Queen Mary II docks at Southampton. She would need a train to London.. then cross London perhaps with luggage.. then take train or bus up North.

We are then not talking of a few hours travel - but more an epic - espeically if the train gets delayed. Or if crowded .. you stand for the entire journey. That's not an option for someone tired after serving on a cruise liner. I would not think the job as "cushy glam" as it perhaps sounds at first.

I know a little of this travel problem from when my two sisters (the teachers of French with Maths/Spanish with Business Studies and both assistant teachers in German too now .. mainly cos of Wildy ) did their "year abroad". They came home for Christmas and Easter. One was based in Strasbourg - then Stuttgart and the other in Bordeaux and Sevilla, They used to catch trains to Calais (10 hour ride with changes) and the other to Le Havre (also with changes.)

Literally - these were epic journeys of 48 hours including waits at stations and those girls were shattered by the time they arrived.



Baggage was a problem for them and me and my brothers ended up having to rescue them and their clutter when they completed this year as it was impossible given that they had each accumulated pots.. pans .. plants (rather triffids which they had got attached to ) .


Oh and the coach. You really CANNOT sleep on those.

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I'm astounded that this girl's decision to use her own car on the the public highway is being questioned.

Nicycle you have an odd slant on life.

Visit the relevant page on Pepi Poo, read, and decide what to do from there. This could be unenforceable.

Because it's cheaper, more convenient, can carry luggage, and above all personal choice!

I'm pretty sure it is unenforceable, no consideration, no contract, no penalties.

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Not at 1AM there isn't!


Last time this topic came up on the news, a spokesman from, I think it was Welcome Break, stated that this charge is there because people were basically using the service station car park for car pooling (I suspect they also don't like truckers parking up overnight, which is why they all use the hard shoulder of the slip road now). They'd all dump their cars there and take one car into eg. London. He also said that their wardens were explicitly instructed not to charge or disturb anyone who is sleeping in their car.

I broke down in a Welcome Break (Charnock Richard in Lancashire) once took 4 hours before the RAC finally recovered my car* the warden said it was fine.

* Phone them up "hi, my piston rings have gone, can you pick up my car please, it needs to go to Chesterfield, oh BTW it's an automatic with AWD so you'll need to send a flatbed". So they send a transit van which arrives an hour later, who turns up says "yeah, your rings have gone, we need to send you a flatbed cos it's 4WD", then another hour this tiny recovery truck with a towing dolly on the back turns up and says "what the hell, you can't tow one of those on a towing dolly, I'll need to get you a flatbed", which arrives another 2 hours later, of course the garage I wanted to use in Chesterfield is shut now, so they had to trailler me home (Liverpool) and send out another flatbed in the morning.