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Dorset Safety Camera Partnership - Casualty Prevention Through Speed Enforcement at Traffic Light Junctions
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Utterly shameful, and does NOTHING to educate or improve Road Safety and continues to concentrate on the WRONG Road Safety measures, missing the point and making drivers even more paranoid and concentrating on the speedo not the road ahead. We envisage more accidents at Red Light areas as a consequence.

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It would go a long way to explain why the authorities are so keen to have traffic lights at, or instead of, roundabouts!

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Poole really is a horrible place now. They have been increasing the number of red lights recently too. Total waste of our lives at night, I don't know about "rush hour".

Then there's the traffic light infested roundabouts, where people exceed "the speed limit" past green lights because of the red lights!

You know it'll only be the junctions where it is safe to exceed "the speed limit" where these are installed.

Holton Heath won't get any.

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Andrew.

is this a new invention looking for an application? Is there a big problem with accidents caused by people exceeding the speed limit through traffic lights, or is it that people are not stopping for the red lights?

They have been around for a while particularly in Victoria (which is a very repressive State in motoring terms). I know of no particular benefots of the dual system other than revenue (and extra demerit points!)

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I thought they were in use in the UK anyway, RedSpeed make (at least) three devices, one does speed, one does red lights, one does both.

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Andrew.

Oh Great!

So we are going to have drivers looking at the speedo when going through junctions instead of looking out for pedestirans and possible red lighters.

Wonderfull!

Where do they get their ideas from?

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I have just had a warning that they have activated these things on the Holes Bay Road. This junction is an obvious one for this scam, 3 lane dual carriageway with an inappropriately low 30mph speed restriction. T junction too, not even a cross roads.
They may have been installed yesterday, it would have been a very profitable time do to so being 'biker night' on the quay. Most bikers would be exceeding 30mph through the lights if they were on green. Coming out of poole most people exceed 30mph there - is it across the top of the T.

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Andrew.

Already commented a year or more ago over the Redspeed Monitrons on the A580 - courtesy of brother and two sisters.

We had the saga of the A572 as being "sneaky". Jazz has a photo on file. We showed the one which the MEN published as part of their coverage It's hidden behind a large rectangular directions sign. We had a couple of photos as taken by both my sisters in March. Decided not to post up as this was ephemeral and we still do not know the story behind it .. But the right hand traffic light at the right turn filter was leaning like the "Tower of Pisa" and skid marks as noted by both sisters suggested to them that driver had noted the "tell tale "gatso markings" on the road and slammed on the anchors and just maybe the driver "locked his wheels and went into spin" Have hard copy of their photos .. will scan when I get a second or so later....

I've reported umpteen accidents on A580 to date.

At the traffic lights where this Redspeed/Monitron type's situated? Woman was killed as she crossed the road .. just as the lights changed. The lorry driver high in his cab simply did not see her as she was "behind the SMIDSY cab pillar"
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Further down the "Lancs" as the locals of Swinton/Worsley call it ... based on visit to family down there last weekends or so.. girl died crossing at another set of lights. She had consumed cider ..but I honestly do not think this impaired her judgement based on the autopsy as reported. I think pure bad luck as she was hit by a lorry who swerved to avoid the decelerating car and was hit by the "ricochet". Lights here .. and I've sat and watched the traffic from one of my sister's home from home.. I think GMP have it right when they recommend a "puffin/toucan" here.

Lower down .. Redspeed cam and the site part of MP Keeley's call for a 30 mph???? The cam's supposed to .. err .. slow traffic.. err.. ummm?

They've been around a while. I deplore red light jumping by anyone though. I will still be fair to Drivesafe of Manchester all the same. Driven along the road and they do not appear to have "fiddled timings on those lights". They have plenty of warning signs which a COAST driver would see anyway

But remedy and saviour of mankind out on our roads? Get real! They ain't and never will be as driver education/re-education which may or may not be concurrent with a fine dependent on the offence in the eyes of a professionally trained expert traffic police officer will always achieve a better and more lasting result.

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I haven't seen these new cameras, I don't know if they are made by Redspeed or if they are that "new" kind which use radar in some crazy way which made me think how much easier piezo strips are.


Safety skid marks, you mean.


You haven't driven around poole at night then. It is becoming normal.

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Andrew.

redspeed/montitrons. Jury still out on these I will wait for Steve C's comment.





No andy.. what they mean in reality of life As in not preventing anything nor teaching anything




I have not. I may drive around our rural locality . which seems to show I have grounds to worry at times

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I mean the new ones in Poole/Dorset. I don't go to poole very often any more so it might be a while before I encounter them. If they're made by Redspeed then I know how they work. If they aren't, then I don't and will have to learn.


Sorry, I was being ironic. If they want to call it a "safety camera" then I say they are "safety skid marks". The two phrases are about as accurate as eachother.



It may be a case of people getting used to ignoring all the pointless red lights - especially in cities - then doing the same where it's less safe to do so?

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