Steve wrote:
I've never, in recent memory, ever seen a motorway where workers are separated by mere cones; I've only ever seen use of concrete blocks. So while your example may well be valid for the specific case you describe, it certainly does not apply to all such motorway road works.
There's more. While I agree it isn't right that people be nipping past cone cleaners at 70, why are the folks cleaning the cones in the first place? How long must have the works been there for cones to need such maintenance? If for any significant period of time, why aren't concrete blocks used instead?
Many would agree to having a temporary restrictions during the times when the cones are fussed around with (with signs explaining why the limit has to be so low), but that’s no justification to apply it 24/7.
More significantly: why do they opt to clean the cones
during darkness? I mean, that’s just f
g stupid, for several reasons!!!
(heck I never see real road works being done out of office hours anyway )There are questions more reaching than that. From your description, there are many people disregarding the reduced motorway limits. This of course isn't good, but how did we reach such a level of disrespect for them? Is it because of limits within other such areas really are taking the pi55?
I have to wonder when people call for stringent measures, each one in itself reasonable but where the combination of them are obviously overkill, when there are much higher limits on roads where there are usually people (cyclists)
within the same lanes as 70mph traffic (DCs with reservations), not separated by anything, without road lighting, perfectly legally. How much more inconsistent can this possibly be?
Sorry but I don’t buy it!
Really. So where did I say a motorway ?
I said the A421/Bedford to M1J13.
The entire stretch is being dualled. From Bedford to the M1
HERE, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE A421 SHOWN IS BEING DUALLED The cones are cleaned at night because the sheer volume of traffic is enormous. The A421 feeds the M1 from the A1.
Other work is done at night, but that involves the closure of the entire length...bridge building etc.
In some places the existing A421 is going to be part of the new dual carriageway, in others a new dual carriageway is being constructed. Since that road also feed traffic to/from Milton Keynes (the other side of the A421 is also going to be dualled, eventually.) you can imagine the amount of traffic.
A new M1 junction is also being built (J13A). Alongside all that, the new Bedford bypass has just been opened....which also feeds the M1 and A1....via the A421.
It is a 40mph limit along the entire stretch. From where it says A421 in the top right, to the M1J13. The section of dual carriageway that the A421 sign is on (top right) is coned to single carriageway because they are building the new carriageway and bridge alongside the road. Which has metal barriers on that part (big drop).
That part is where the specs start...and they are alongside the entire stretch from Bedford to the M1.