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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 02:30 
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Speeding fines questionable after signs ‘stolen’
8:50am Monday 29th March 2010
By James Morton »

DOZENS of motorists are set to escape speeding fines after it emerged some key road signs had gone missing in Poole.
The 30mph boards, which warn of a change of speed limit from 50mph, disappeared from Holes Bay Road, just before the Sterte Road traffic lights, last week.
However, the controversial “speed on green” cameras at the Sterte junction were still flashing drivers exceeding 30mph.
But with no indication for motorists as to the change in speed limit, experts said any tickets would be null and void.
Richard Bentley, an independent traffic signs and regulations consultant, said the absence of signs meant no driver could be convicted.

The Dorset Safety Camera Partnership, which enforces speeding fines, confirmed penalty notices could not be issued where “legally required speed limit signage” was not in place.
It is believed the signs went missing – presumed stolen – on Thursday and temporary 30mph signs were only put up on Saturday afternoon.
It means there was a period of up to 48 hours when motorists may have been flashed by the camera without any signs being in place. Anyone issued with a ticket from this period is therefore likely to have a strong case for having the fine scratched.

Poole council, which is responsible for the upkeep of road signs, said permanent replacement signs were in place by Monday.
Driver David Mallinson said he noticed last week’s lack of signage having previously been a victim of the Holes Bay cameras.

“Everyone was being caught when the last visible sign said 50mph,” he said.
Johnny Stephens, head of fixed penalties for the DSCP, condemned the alleged theft of the 30mph signs.
He said: “The theft of speed limit signage is wholly irresponsible behaviour that could endanger people’s lives.”

Dorset Police have launched an investigation into the signs’ disappearance.

A sign that is missing causes issues for the Legal Process, it cannot by itself cause a dangerous situation if a motorists is travelling so that they can stop in the distance that they can see to be clear in - and so thereby driving / riding to the conditions.

The paranoia caused by a missing sign is more likely to have a motorists distracted, by looking all over the place trying to abide by the limit as it is not predictable or obviously any longer. Then it could be more dangerous by being so distracted.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 02:59 
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This is abhorrent! The idea that someone caught by a scamera might seek to get out of their punishment by removing the signs, thus invalidating the speed limit (cue GreenShed/SC telling us why it doesn't) simply highlights how thoughtless they really are! Without signs telling drivers what speed to drive at they are all likely to zoom around at 0.99c (a gagillion miles per hour for the uninitiated) and fatally crash into every one of the local children, before causing a rift in the space/time continuum!

Bastards!

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