I know that this has been touched on by various people but there is a growing interest I feel in this ...
I have had a small discussion on this
here but have been collating data and feel it worthy of listing in here for reference and discussion.
Pepipoo
hereACPO listed Guidelines via Pepipoo
hereDaily mail report to Hampshire Solicitor [quote=Daily Mail]But that is contradicted by a letter from Geoffrey Biddulph, the senior Home Office civil servant in charge of policing Britain's roads.
In it, he states clearly:
Geoffrey Biddulph wrote:
"We do accept in certain atypical circumstances a device may be capable of producing inaccurate readings."
Herepepipoo showing a Policeman's Forum
Here where they normally include "I formed the opinion that the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit".
ACPO Manual Guidelines :
Here (via Pepipoo)
Honest John's
Honest John wrote:
SPEEDING DEFENCES 3: Is incorrect use of a speed measuring device a valid defence against conviction for speeding?
hereBlake Lapthorn Law
Here where in one of the cases states :
Blake Lapthorn Law wrote:
speeding on A303
Barry Culshaw of our Motoring Offences team based at our Southampton office was consulted by P who had been summoned before Salisbury Magistrates Court in regard to an allegation brought by Wiltshire Constabulary of speeding on the A303 near Andover, Hampshire. The prosecution alleged that P was exceeding the 70 mph national speed limit for a dual carriageway by travelling at 104 mph. P was adamant that he was complying with the speed limit at the material time. The prosecution claimed that the police officer's prior opinion of excess speed was corroborated by a speed reading produced by an LTI 20:20 TSM speedscope laser speed measuring device. An expert's report was commissioned. Barry Culshaw, an experienced road traffic lawyer, represented P at trial where he was found not guilty, the court ruling that P was a credible and convincing witness, that there were breaches on the part of the police in complying with the relevant ACPO Code of Practice and the court could not be sure that it was P's vehicle that had produced the speed reading due to multiple vehicles in the vicinity of his vehicle at the time of the check and having regard to the beam spread of the laser beam at the distance at which P's vehicle had been targeted namely 676.5 metres.
[my bold] so this showed that in spite of a claimed prior opinion the error resulted from multiple possible readings, which is also a performance error.
So how can one prove that a prior opinion has happened. From much of the video evidence that I have seen, it rarely looks like it happens at all and is more of an after thought, to fit the facts, potentially.
Should better processes be in place since it needs to be formed 'prior' to the back up process ?